Actually DRM-free tracks are $99 and I have found a number of tracks  
for $69. Got several albums made up of $69 tracks. I gather it is now  
more based on popularity because I have an entire library I purchased  
from Apple that is iTunes Plus or DRM-free. Spent way to much money  
with Apple. :)
On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Umm, I think they made the option to pay a bit more and get a DRM- 
> free version. What they call the 'Plus' version. So for USD$.99 you  
> get DRM and for $1.29 you get DRM free. Of course media owners had  
> the option of also going USD$.69 per track for 'back catalog' stuff  
> but of course tose are hard to find, if they exist at all. At least  
> I haven't found any .69 tracks.
>
> CB
>
> Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> iTunes itself got rid of DRM on all music with the iTunes Music store
>> recently. As someone said, if people want it bad enough they will  
>> take
>> it to the exstremes to get it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> alex,
>>
>>
>> On 15-Jul-09, at 8:52 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>>
>>
>>> hi this so the chafee amenent can be folled please don't  
>>> misunderstand
>>> me we must keep it just for the print disabled or we will luse the
>>> exzpation ie if it isnot broken we shud not give the others gild
>>> enaymor amo to put up roodblokes to a good and a good degree. drm is
>>> the only that publishers can be assered that we won't piret the  
>>> books.
>>> ie no ipods and sertly no itunes in less we the blind can due it  
>>> so we
>>> can be protected here in the us.
>>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Greg:
>>>>
>>>> I want to make clear that All of my comments were solely in regards
>>>> to NLS
>>>> and RFBD.  I know nothing about what you do.
>>>>
>>>> I have never heard of the daisy format being playable on anything
>>>> but a
>>>> specialized player.  If it can actually be played on an IPod, then
>>>> that is a
>>>> good thing but it's news to me.  I personally have not had good
>>>> experiences
>>>> with so we'll just have to have a friendly disagreement for the
>>>> moment on
>>>> whether or not it's any good or not.  I've found it to be bloated
>>>> and overly
>>>> complex.  I have encountered many that weren't marked up for
>>>> navigation
>>>> properly which makes them harder to navigate than cassette tapes in
>>>> my
>>>> opinion.  Granted, all of my experiences are with the rfbd versions
>>>> but I'm
>>>> not totally sure that it makes that much difference.  My point was
>>>> not to
>>>> step on someone's favorite file format, but to address the fact  
>>>> that
>>>> there
>>>> are main streme formats that  would have worked quite well as a
>>>> delivery
>>>> system for NLS and RFBD that would have worked for both the pc and
>>>> mac.
>>>> That being said, If the Daisy can be made to work on non daisy
>>>> devices, than
>>>> it's fine as for as I'm concerned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Greg Kearney" <gkear...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod,
>>>> iPhone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Daisy standard is hardly a "bizarre format" and when made
>>>>> correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other such
>>>>> devices. The issue here is not Daisy the issue is that NLS and  
>>>>> to a
>>>>> lesser degree RFB&D have chosen to add digital rights management  
>>>>> aka
>>>>> encryption to their books.
>>>>>
>>>>> We make books without any DRM and include playlist so that they  
>>>>> are
>>>>> playable on other non-Daisy devices. Daisy offers advantages  
>>>>> such as
>>>>> multiple bookmarks, page and section navigation and the option to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> notes or not as needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daisy is a public standard and is published for all to use at
>>>>> www.daisy.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>
>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>>>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>>>>> Email: gkear...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's definitely my vision of how things should be.  However,  
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> such blind services (i.e. NLS, RFBD) seem to be hell bent on
>>>>>> producing
>>>>>> material in some bizarre format completely incompatible with
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> that the main stream world is using.  I wonder just how much  
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> actually goes in to the research development of that crap anyway.
>>>>>> Also, I think it will be a long time before the prevailing myth
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> "blind folks are supposed to use windblows based pcs" is broken.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> more everyone requests compatiblity with other platforms the more
>>>>>> chance there will be for change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that would be really cool to have only one device for all of the
>>>>>>> books/
>>>>>>> music/phone/email, well you get the point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> Well it looks as if the NLS here in the U.S. is going to be
>>>>>>>> rolling
>>>>>>>> out their long awaited digital talkingbooks and players in a  
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> months program wide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For a while there have been beta testers that have used  
>>>>>>>> assorted
>>>>>>>> aspects of the program's hardware and software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The digital talking books are going to be put on flash memory  
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> people who have the victor reader stream have been able to
>>>>>>>> download
>>>>>>>> digital files of the books to play on their players for a  
>>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> have to register for the service and receive a special file  
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> load onto the stream from what I understand and it pinpoints  
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> registered NLS user and allows you to use the download-able
>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well I am wondering if it would be possible for Apple to team  
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> NLS like they've done with Audible and allow iTunes, future  
>>>>>>>> iPods
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> or the iPhone to play the NLS DTBs?  I am thinking it would be
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> best thing in the world if I could put NLS books in iTunes and
>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>> iPod.  This can be done but it is against the law and  
>>>>>>>> cumbersome
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> time consuming. LOL and it would be just better in my way of
>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>> if NLS DTBs would just go on the iPod all on their own without
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> fuss or muss.
>>>>>>>> Do you all think this could be done and is it something anyone
>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>> would like to see?
>>>>>>>> How would people e go about telling Apple to look into this or
>>>>>>>> like I
>>>>>>>> said is it even possible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>>> Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
>>>>>>>> blueskyes9112...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Olathe, Kansas USA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Join me on FaceBook:
>>>>>>>> Personal Profile - www.facebook.com/blueskyes
>>>>>>>> And feel free to join "The Blind Parents of FaceBook" group.
>>>>>>>> Search
>>>>>>>> for it in groups or contact me for details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Follow me via twitter using the username: ben_folds_fan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >


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