this is a bug that's been with us for a while.

On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:53 AM, william lomas wrote:


how can i check the download window of itues then?

On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:41, David Poehlman wrote:

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> You do provie a way out of bug status here:
>> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
>> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
>> no harm done.
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> On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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> Hmm, I've read what's below and can't see anywhere that I say it's not
> a bug. I'm on the side of the fence that thinks it is, so perhaps we
> got our wires crossed.
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> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
> wrote:
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>> no, all I said was it is not a bug which you seem to agree with
>> below.
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>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
>> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
>> no harm done.
>> Agreed efficiency often takes longer to materialise than basic
>> access,
>> but the point in this case I think is that this is efficiency that's
>> regressed.  It's no biggy because there is an obvious workaround, but
>> at least making sure it's brought to Apple's attention will do nobody
>> any harm.  Or did I miss something?
>>
>> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Scott,
>>> It might have been sacrificed for better accessibility in other
>>> areas.
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>>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>>> How not out of interest?
>>> Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
>>> this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
>>>
>>> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> bug well, maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is
>>>> fixed,
>>>> but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still
>>>> worth
>>>> reporting.  One of the things I like about OS X is that there's
>>>> always
>>>> more than one way to skin a cat, and this is one way that
>>>> eventually
>>>> needs to work.
>>>>
>>>> While I'm hear, Jacob, have you tried turning off genius to see if
>>>> that affects anything?
>>>>
>>>> On 3/12/09, David Poehlman
>>>> <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> so they missed again, folks, relax, you can use the vo keys to do
>>>>> your
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:18 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well lol i keep hearing new accessibility issues are improved but
>>>>> what
>>>>> about that damn downloads window? especially if buyin or renting a
>>>>> movie, i can't see the progress?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Mar 2009, at 05:24, Scott Rutkowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK basically i've tried with different views such as grid view
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> view
>>>>>> being focused on different parts of the source list and when i
>>>>>> tab
>>>>>> past the
>>>>>> search field you can't tab to the songs table and other then this
>>>>>> the new
>>>>>> iTunes is fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> still trying to work out what the iTunes dj is for so if anyone
>>>>>> knows how it
>>>>>> works or can shed some light on it let us all know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure the tab key is broken in iTunes because even turning off
>>>>>> cursor
>>>>>> tracking and looking through the view menu makes no difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehl...@handsontechnologeyes.com>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:56 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, we need more.  if I do as you describe, I get search,
>>>>>>> sources
>>>>>>> and songs as I tab through.  You might try turning the browser
>>>>>>> on,
>>>>>>> setting your view to grid, any number of things to see if you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> lick
>>>>>>> this.  what source is selected when you see this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>>>>> I wanted to ask this here before I write to Apple, in case it's
>>>>>>> something odd about my setup. Along with the accessibility
>>>>>>> improvements in iTunes 8.1 I'm seeing some very serious issues.
>>>>>>> Chief
>>>>>>> among them is that, while tabbing still moves through controls
>>>>>>> properly, Voiceover will not stay in sync while tabbing. I can
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> use the VO cursor to get around and, as I use tab to quickly
>>>>>>> jump
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the song list to the media browser, for me this is a serious
>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>> Before I report this as a problem to Apple, can anyone here
>>>>>>> duplicate
>>>>>>> it? Simply go into iTunes and start tabbing around, if Voiceover
>>>>>>> doesn't announce the controls you're tabbing to after the first
>>>>>>> one,
>>>>>>> you've duplicated it. I don't want to report a bug if it's
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> on my system only, as that would more than likely mean I've got
>>>>>>> another issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, and sorry for cross-posting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a
>>>>>>> thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be
>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get at or repair.
>>>>>>> --Douglas Adams
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