2014-03-28 13:58 GMT+01:00 Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>: > Aplogies for lack of immediate response - I had to teach. I have had > frustrations with Lyx ever since I moved from SciWord several years ago. > Yesterday I upgraded to the latest beta and now when I try and load up a > New file I get the error message that there is no begin document command > when there clearly is in the source file- I wasted half a day trying to > work out what was wrong- in fact I still don't know what was wrong but by > removing use theme warsaw from the Latex preamble it works for some reason- > secondly the installation on MacOSx does not drop the relevant files > -templates etc. in the right places where the system can find them --- so > when I ask for a New from template I am told the file will not compile as > it requires external files which are not available.etc. Etc. etc. can you > understand how frustrating this is when you are under pressure??? I am not > a TeX speaker but someone who needs to use the wonderful system that you > have helped to create in a professional context. However.... It is just a > real pain that it does not work properly on a Mac largely because of > install problems I believe. I fully understand your effort and all those > who along with you have helped create Lyx in the form it is today - thank > you- but that is not the point - nobody should put any software out to the > public which does not work as it should- my time as yours is valuable. It > is simply not professional. >
1. If you install beta software, be aware that it is beta software. The announcement of LyX 2.1beta and LyX 2.1rc clearly state that "this release is for testing purposes only, users are encouraged to use current 2.0 stable release for any serious work." 2. LyX is a community project, not a commercial product. The developers are all volunteers and have jobs (I am, as you, a researcher and teacher at the university). So if you do not have time to give at least constructive feedback (one way of "participating"), then use commercial software and pay for the support. Regards Jürgen > Mark > > From: Jürgen Spitzmüller <sp...@lyx.org> > Date: Friday, 28 March 2014 10:44 > To: Murat Yildizoglu <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr> > Cc: Mark Salmon <markhsal...@gmail.com>, Steven Fredman < > stevenfred...@gmail.com>, LyX Users List <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > Subject: Re: Adding new class into LyX > > 2014-03-28 11:33 GMT+01:00 Murat Yildizoglu: > >> Don't get vexed so quickly Jürgen :-) The users should be able to tell >> the problems they meet. >> > > Sure, but in a constructive way. We cannot fix "a total waste of time" and > "terrible support". > > >> It is true that writing a module for supporting a new class file is not >> very easy, but I do not know how it could be. We must find a way to tell to >> the WSYWYM software a way to represent on the screen the new logical >> components that are specific to this new class. Scientific Word (a >> commercial software costing a LOT money- especially in France) has always >> been confronted to the same problem, even if they provided a graphical >> style composer (it was not very easy to use either, but I have not tested >> it recently, since I have switched to Lyx). >> > > Sure. We all want some graphical tool to setup layout files. There even > were attempts to do so. But then, we are about 7 persons in the core team, > all of has have a job and a career, so it is a it is in OSS: Things get > implemented if someone finds the time and interest. > > OTOH, I think LyX has a great community. Usually, if someone requests for > help with setting up a layout, he gets help within the same day. I have > responded the OP within minutes, even though I actually have a paper to > write myself at this very moment (where the deadline has passed already). > > So with all respect to wishes and dreams, my understanding for such > unconstructive rants is rather limited. > > Jürgen > >
