On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Diego Queiroz <queiroz.di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hellmut, this behavior is not a rule, right?
> As a programmer I assure you: once things are correctly handled, everything
> should be fine. Believe on me. :-)
> And I repeat, it is just a guess for a name to the file, LyX won't impose
> the filename.
> An option to disable this feature is welcome (for those who dislikes).
>
The LyX coding 'philosophy' is to assist users but in an un-intrusive
manner. To rephrase, we don't intend to provide each and every
disturbingly-helpful feature that MS Word and the ilk provide.
(Personally I find title / first line file name suggestions are
useless for me and provide overhead, since I will always want to
delete that text to provide a file name that confirms to "my" naming
style. The current 'newfile#.lyx' is always helpful when creating
dummy documents for the ML. I do appreciate, however, that others have
different user habits.)
To be clear, I don't think that LyX will ever care to provide such a
trivial option in the Prefs. (I hope it won't!) What is left is to
determine a consistent behaviour that works in most cases for most
users. The current behaviour ('newfile#.lyx') is obviously consistent
and works flawlessly whatever the actual content of the document. The
behaviour you suggest would require coding a contrived hack, which
would take \title if available, otherwise first line (to which some
expressed strong aversion and which I also find disturbing), if
suggestion contains funny chars or delimiters (such as \n \t and the
like) strip them (considering utf-8, how do you determine what is
legal and what is not?), perhaps other difficult to foresee cases
(such as LyX documents containing only ERT).
I know that you will disagree, but I don't think that most users and
developers would approve of such a hack in LyX. And I don't know who
would want to code _and_ maintain it. Regards
Liviu
> If a guess for the filename wasn't necessary, why LyX doesn't leave the file
> field blank instead of "newfile"?
> The answer is: because this feature improves the software usability.
> Just as an stupid example, suppose I create 10 new files, type something in
> all of them and hit "Save all".
> With this feature, I will be able to determine a good name for each file
> (based on the first sentence, or anything else) without navigate to each
> document.
> I bet I can't do the same if "newfile" or "Untitled" was the result.
> IMO, we need to improve the functionality of LyX, and not block good ideas.
> ---
> Diego Queiroz
>
>
>
> 2011/4/9 Hellmut Weber <m...@hellmutweber.de>
>>
>>
>> Am 08.04.2011 18:37, schrieb Inon Sharony:
>> > Hey LyX developers!
>> >
>> > As in MS (boo!) Office, when saving a new file, whatever appears in the
>> > \title section should automatically be guessed as the name that the file
>> > should be saved as.
>> >
>> > Do you agree?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> Although you addressed the developpers I would like to contribute my
>> 0.02$ as a user.
>>
>> Please do not copy the idiocy of M$ Word to create file names using the
>> title or (much worse) the first phrase. This leads in many casesto
>> strings which contain blanks or even strnage utf-8 characters.
>> Even some windows s<ystems do substitute someof these 'strange'
>> characters then by '?' or '_'.
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Hellmut
>>
>>
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>
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