> > > While in the process of trying to add things like Qt4 to my Slack 12
> > > system I managed to mung my ability to send outgoing mail. I
> > > reinstalled on a fresh partition but I still have problems. So among
> > > other things I am giving up on Lyx. More to the point, I am giving up
> > > on recommending Lyx to TEX newbies. If someone can cite a version of
> > > Lyx that runs without tears on the latest stable version of Slack
> > > (12) then I may give it a try again.
> > >
> > > There seems to be a virus infecting developers all over the net that
> > > compels them to use the newest tools even though the newest tools are
> > > not widely available.
> >
> > Please stop this non sense.
> 
> Makes perfect sense to me, and I couldn't have said it better myself. A 
> person 
> should not have to upgrade their distro every few months in order to compile 
> the latest apps.

1. There is no reason for xform lament. You have been already said that there is
   no unicode wrt xforms. Now unicode was main target of 1.5, so obsoleting 
xforms
   was not some arbitrary caprice or obsession about newest tools, currently >2 
years
   old.

2. There is a clear difference between installing lyx within certain distro
   and compiling it for yourself. Installing is for normal user and distro
   devs are responsible to preserve user from dependency hell which 
automatically
   come with new apps. The moment you step out of this model you must be
   prepared for the problems you encounter now. Please accept them, this is
   the way world is.

3. Even if you take the more adventurous trip of compiling it for yourself,
   it is not true that you are forced you to upgrade vital part of your OS. 
   You can compile and install both Qt & LyX locally without single root
   access on your machine. If you dont know how, ask and learn it.

4. There is no need to spent your energy in further flaming. If you wanted to 
send
   some complain word about that qt4 thing, I'm sure people already understand
   your point (ok, maybe they don't agree, but thats different story).

I'm also sure people want to help you, so lets come back to particular problems 
you 
are facing when compiling LyX. Further mails about infection diseases only upset
people on both sides and won't solve anything IMO.

Good night :)
Pavel

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