Am Montag, 5. August 2013 um 14:50:19, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn 
<v...@lyx.org>
> Op 5-8-2013 14:37, Kornel Benko schreef:
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> > Am Montag, 5. August 2013 um 08:22:19, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 
> > <skost...@lyx.org>
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> > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Kornel Benko <kor...@lyx.org> wrote:
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> > > > Am Montag, 5. August 2013 um 08:01:08, schrieb Scott Kostyshak
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> > > > <skost...@lyx.org>
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> > > >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Pavel Sanda <sa...@lyx.org> wrote:
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> > > >> > Scott Kostyshak wrote:
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> > > >> >> > Sorry, I meant "This is also a test for lyx2lyx, isn't it?"
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> > > >> >> My opinion is that we should update those documents. I agree 
> > that it
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> > > >> > attic is just garbage and it is somewhat absurd that test 
> > should fail
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> > > >> > because of some contents in there. Please create proper tests for
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> > > >> > things you want to test and do not impose some future maintenance
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> > > >> > burden like "we should keep stuff in attic up-to-date".
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> > > >> OK. Attached is a patch.
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> > > >> Scott
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> > > > Why not check earlier?
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> > > Indeed, that is better. I think you can commit that (if you agree with
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> > > it). Both Vincent and Pavel are in favor of not testing attic.
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> > > Scott
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> > I do not agree. We should check attic too IMHO (or else do not provide 
> > it).
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> > Therefore I prefer you to commit :)
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> > Kornel
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> 
> If you would ask me, I would veto any decision to force a check of the 
> attic documents. I totally agree with Pavel that it is rather stupid to 
> maintain documents that we have declared obsolete.

And I think, they may show a problem. Sorry for being stupid.

> The problem here is that it is not clear what is being tested. You seem 
> to have the idea that you're testing LyX using the docs.

That is not what I am after. I want also to test for regressions.
This may be a problem of lyx, or of lyx2lyx or whatever.

> However, if 
> they were proper tests, the documents should never change unless LyX's 
> behaviour changes.

In attic not even then.

> This is not the case here. The docs are constantly 
> updated, by developers, by translators etc. If a document got broken by 
> some exotic combination of preamble changes,  change tracking, and maybe 
> some asian characters, the tests suddenly tells us that LyX is broken, 
> while LyX didn't change.

The test only shows that the compilation of this document is broken.

> I don't like to have to fix the chinese documents to be able to still 
> use the tests. Or to fix the preamble of the obsoleted polish math 
> manual, because otherwise the tests don't pass.

Sure, valid point. But we are providing lyx also for chinese/polish language.
And it would be nice to have at least our documents compilable.

> Vincent

        Kornel

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