On 10/25/2009 06:28 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Richard Heck wrote:
Pavel will tell us
i had two things in mind
- how is the user going to discover the other ones. if he needs to go to the 
configuration
   in the pref's convertor pane then god bless him. its such a unintuive beast 
that we have
   even bug number for it.
- i know one software, you wouldn't guess the name, which always knows better 
than me
   what i might want to have configured. if i tell him that i really want my 
way he will
   still tell me every 20 minutes i should do something with it. so i spend 
next ten minutes
   to find some deeper level setting which will make him shut up his mouth. 
then i restart
   and the issue is back :) once i feel some automatical care is entering in 
the name of
   users who are unable to understand the difference between ps2pdf and 
pdflatex i get bit
   nervous.

Yes, we all agree about that. Certainly we don't want to make things hard for power users (=us!). But I think that there must be a reasonable compromise here somewhere: To make choosing one or more converters easier, while letting people know there are choices to be made, and having a reasonable set of defaults. Remember that, as things are now, the order in which things appear in configure.py determines which converter is chosen, and selecting a new one---let alone two---is in some cases very difficult, if the command line is at all complicated. So having some default that we choose isn't a change. Making it easier to choose a different one, or more than one, is.

It seems to me that a lot of the "heat" in this discussion has to do with defaults. I'm guessing that if I were to propose a patch that made us check for htlatex first and elyxer second, it'd cause a lot of "discussion". I won't even ask why we do it as we do.

rh

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