On 08/28/2009 02:59 AM, Guenter Milde wrote:
On 2009-08-28, Ben M. wrote:
I find it strange that "--Separator--" appears inside the environment
pulldown.  Instead, I think of it as a character similar to a line
break.  I would expect to see it under Insert-Formatting-'Environment
Break'.
Indeed. But as it is a hack and defined as a paragraph style, it appears
and behaves like one. (You can even write some text inside the Separator
paragraph: it looks odd in LyX but for LaTeX this is the same as text in
a Standard paragraph.)

This is the reason I haven't really been involved in this discussion: The Separator "environment" is a total hack, and new ideas that build upon it don't seem worth pursuing. What we need is a real solution, not new hacks. This is true even for the theorem case.

I can think of a couple options. Note that the "double enter" thing could be used with any of these.

(i) Create a new paragraph parameter that would have the effect of separator. This could be drawn on-screen as some kind of end-of-paragraph marker, though in many cases it wouldn't need to be, since the next paragraph will have a different appearance. (That said, I wouldn't mind seeing a special such marker on screen ANY time the paragraph has some kind of customization, just as a visual reminder.)

(ii) Actually do this separation, as Ben kind of suggested at one point, as a special character that can appear only at the end of the paragraph. Same idea, different implementation.

rh

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