Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> I always ask the developers for comments when I add new features
(other than NSIS code
>> optimization and things like that).
> Uwe, I think you should reconsider your position about this story.
Unless you find it fun to
> develop your own personal solution (in which case I fully respect
your POV) it really does not
> make sense to duplicate the effort here.
The problem is that most of the installer features are from me and
later bit by bit also used in Joost's installer, but I was never
contacted or asked by him BEFORE such a changes were made. I mean I
have contacted the authors of MiKTeX, ImageMagick, Ghostscript, JabRef
to get versions I could use for the installer. I even wrote for JabRef
a new installer, I developed together with the MiKTeX developer some
interfaces that were needed,
Nobody deny your merits. But we are talking about the duplication of
source code here not about the necessary communication with external
project.
... So I'm not the one duplicating features. (I haven't used code by
Joost until now, btw.)
I did not say so. I just say that there is some duplication of effort,
that's all.
> Time has passed and I reckon there are more and more Windows users;
so you'd do us all a great
> favor if you'd try to collaborate with Joost.
And he doesn't need to collaborate with me?
I had the impression that's what he tried to do with his message, didn't he?
I don't understand why someone who joined the LyX installer business
much later, don't need to collaborate with me, but did always what he
want without contacting me before.
OK, we all need how it begun. And I also agree he should have been more
open in his initial development. But perhaps you could forgive him someday?
This is no basis for a collaboration, I gave up that a collaboration
is possible. Christian's try to bring us together was noc success as I
wrote.
> WRT the difference, it seems that only the position about
ImageMagick is different.
There are more differences.
> This is not true. Possibly you could add an option in the installer
to allow the user to install a
> minimal, fully tested, embedded version, couldn't you?
You mean a Live Lyx?
No, sorry I was talking to joost here. I just meant that instead of
downloading and installing lates version of ImageMagick, Joost could
offer the option to bundle a tested version of ImageMagick like you do
in your installer.
This could be created, but giving support for such a beast is horrible
since the LaTeX packages often interfere and in most cases the
solution is simply to make a MikTeX update.
> Uwe, this is just my 2 cents, if you still don't want to merge your
effort with Joost's just say
> "no"
To say it like I feel about this: What is the effort of Joost's
installer, despite he used my work and many of my features for his
installer?
I'd like to state again that source code is meant to change and to be
reused. Yes, it is your work but the end result is not yours anymore as
long as you open sourced it. Joost or anyone else has all right to reuse
it and he should be welcome to do so IMHO.
> no need for another drama after the embedding stuff :-)
What was this? I haven't followed the many posts about this issue but
seen that this feature was removed from SVN now. Or why have you added
a smiley to a drama?
Because I was kidding... I see that this is still a highly sensitive
subject so I'll shut up now. I tried...
Abdel.
