On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 02:59:44PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Andre Poenitz wrote:
> >A second
> >reason is that qmake has two abilities than none of the other three
> >systems have: It knows about Qt, so no special code for .ui or such
> >needed, and it has _real_ MSVS integration including project management,
> >integrated help, designer and so on based on .pro files as primary
> >source of information.
> 
> Are you sure that those feature are available in the open source version 
> of Qt?

Hm... not sure. I've been using the commercial version of Qt for three
years and now in the new job some in-house version from which both the
commercial and the OS versions are build. I think I never used the
OS version on Windows myself, so I don't really know how much it differs
from the commercial one. I'll try to increase my level of knowledge ;-}

> Don't tell your boss but we are not using the official version of 
> Qt but a patched version in order to compile with MSVC.

There's nothing wrong with patching the OS version of Qt. It's open
source after all.

> >Also, the final solution in the build system arena might as well be some
> >hybrid solution as e.g. using autoconf for the actual configuration and
> >using the fastest 'build backend'. 
> 
> I'd be OK personally with an autoconf/QMake provided that we make sure 
> that the MSYS autoconf works well in this case.

Point noted.
 
> >>- Why don't you stop the windows installer nonsense?
> >
> >Because I already wasted half a year of my lifetime on Windows installers
> >and I won't touch them even with a three yard pole unless there was a
> >_really good reason_. [And I doubt your purse is big enough to qualify
> >as "_really good reason_" ;-}]
> 
> Well, it's not like we are wasting an awful lot of resources here 
> either. Up to now only Joost and Uwe are wasting their time in the 
> competition. But I don't think their time would get automatically 
> invested to core development if they agree (please correct me if I am 
> wrong Joost and Uwe). Bo and Christian both tried to get involved and 
> failed AFAIK. But I agree that this situation is utterly confusing for 
> the end-users.

So we should make some effort to rectify this situation rather soonish,
too...

Andre'

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