Christian wrote:

>>    I designed the installer to be able to have a full functional LyX.

> With full functional LyX, I assume you mean "fully functional document 
processing/preparation
> system" :-) I guess one problem is where to draw the line - should it include 
drawing software
> for instance.

I think everythnig is in now. a BibTeX editor was requested several times and I worked together with the JabRef people to build in the things that were needed to this is then the definite line.

I now have
- Python, ImageMagick, and Ghostscript (bundled, not separately installed 
because only the needed
                                        files are bundled)
- MiKTeX (only in the complete version, required, will be installed using its 
own installer)
- JabRef, and GSview (only in the complete version, optional, will be installed 
using its own
                      installer)

> So if I understand you correctly, the purpose of your installer is to result 
in a tested LyX
> bundle for users that want the easy way.

Exactly.

> I think Bo was worried that having to deal with all these other packages makes for a big work load > for the developers. You seem to think the opposite, i.e. that it's less work to bundle the
> packages because it results in less questions from the user... Interesting.

That the bundling lead to less support request is my experience.

> Btw, I knew you have done a lot, but I hadn't thought about the scope of it. 
By creating easy to
> use installers, there are many new users. And the "curse" of lots of new 
Windows users is of
> course all the questions and all the bug reports about things that aren't 
really LyX's fault, but
> perceived as such by the user...

That's it!

> Just a minor thought regarding FTP-servers that are down. What would you 
think about storing a
> copy of the packages on e.g. ftp.lyx.org?

I don't think we should do this. We surely have enough traffic and also lyx.org 
is sometimes down.

> Does Joost's installer already support the option of doing a minimal 
installation? If that's the
> case, we already have a minimal installer.

Yes it does. While cooling down in reading your email I came to the proposal I 
just posted.

> Speaking of that. Have you thought anything on the release plan for a 
complete installer? If for
> instance IM do a new release (with important bug fixes), would you then say 
that there should also
> be a new release of the complete installer?

That depends on the severity. I remember a PNG bug where the IM people recommended an update and I accordingly released a new installer version.

regards Uwe

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