I think your attack was bad. Naugthy Bo, bad Bo!  SCNR :-)

I am too old to be called naughty, but I agree that I could be more
diplomatic. For various reasons, I have a strong feelings against
forking.

I've gotten the impression Uwe is upset because he feels Joost took his
code, got it in SVN and now the official installer is "Joost's", although
the original initiative was Uwe's, and he did a *lot* of the work (not
even counting all the support/troubleshooting Uwe has done later on). So
it really is about acknowledgments from peers.

I guess Joost is at a better position to comment on this but talking
about whose installer is kind of silly for a GPL project. We have to
call Joost or Uwe's installer because we have two now.

Joost's installer became the official one because he discussed with us
(e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg94538.html
) every aspects of the installer, including bundling issues, and
produced something as promised. At that time, most of the developers
preferred a clean installer without lots of add-ons. Uwe's installer,
although started before Joost's, lost the competition for various
reasons. Technique merits can be one (Joost has better understanding
of NSIS), but failed to follow suggestions from lyx developers was
more important. IMHO, Uwe should seek svn privilege from the first day
he worked on the installer and discuss various issues with others.
There would be no second installer if Uwe was working on the official
one.

I dislike bundling but as I have said, I can live with it if others
prefer this way. So the problem was not with the installer itself,
rather the inclusion of the installer in the trunk with no obvious
intention to merge with the official one.

Uwe, for what it's worth, you certainly have my respect/acknowledgement.
I've also seen many other posts from developers that acknowledge your
work, so I'm not alone in this.

I do respect all the work Uwe has done, but that does not mean I like
his detached work on his installer. His work could be a lot more
efficient if he could work directly on the official one. (I agree that
svn access was a problem.)

My impression is that a majority of the developers are *for* letting Uwe
keep his stuff in SVN, regardless of other issues. (The developers against
would be Bo and possibly Joost).

I did not have this impression, but this is irrelevant. What Uwe
should have done was

1. announce that he would like to put his installer in the trunk
2. I would object but others might not
3. take appropriate action according to the outcome of 2.

If Uwe is still interested in putting his installer in the trunk, he
can start from 1 now. You have seen many times that I changed my mind
after I announced something like: I will change my mind if I get three
objections (and I usually got enough objections. :-)

Bo

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