On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 11:18:58AM +0100, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2007 01:47 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > I haven't seen any rationale, only opinions. Currently, when I copy > > something to the clipboard I cannot paste it by C-v, which is what > > the typical Windows user expects. He doesn't expect to have to choose > > either > > Edit->Paste External Clipboard/Selection->Clipboard as Lines > > or > > Edit->Paste External Clipboard/Selection->Clipboard as Paragraphs > > or > > Edit->Paste External Clipboard/Selection->Selection as Lines > > or > > Edit->Paste External Clipboard/Selection->Selection as Paragraphs > > > > But which one? And what does it mean "as Lines" or "as Paragraphs"? > > > > Not to say that the typical Windows user would expect to be able to > > paste images... but... oops, he can't. Tsk, tsk, this is not what the > > OS guidelines suggest, isn't it? > > Now you become polemic by pointing at totally different issues (and > besides: LyX does not store images in the document itself, so image > pasting cannot be implemented in a sensible way as long as that is the > case).
Yes, that was the intention... in the sense that I wanted to point out that you cannot invoke the OS guidelines to reject something, given that such guidelines are not really followed. > > So, you say that it is wrong having an easy way to paste the contents > > of the external clipboard as text using the middle-button. > > Instead, I say that it is right because it is not C-v, so I don't > > expect to be able to paste arbitrary content and because it is handy. > > When I separated the external clipboard from the selection it was always my > plan to merge it with the internal clipboard in such a way that C-v would > always paste the more recent one. The external clipoboard menu entries are > nevertheless useful, because C-v has to either choose "as Lines" or "as > Paragraphs", and you sometimes want the other (if you don't know what the > difference: Try it out, I severely miss something like this e.g. in OOo) I know very well the difference. I was impersonating the famous typical Windows user there... > > LyX can only copy/paste text, so the selection/clipboard separation > > was a big mistake. IMHO, of course. > > No, it was needed to implement a clean selection concept on X11. And of > course the plan is that LyX should be able to transfer more than plain > text via the clipboard in the future, but the selection will always be > plain text only. You know more than me, obviously. Please forgive this seasoned ranter for not having understood that the selection/clipboard work was in a still-to-be-finished status. -- Enrico
