On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 11:03:05AM +0100, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. Januar 2007 22:19 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > > I really can't understand you. > > > > 1) Windows has no selection concept. > > 2) Some programs exists which copy selection to the clipboard. > > 3) Abdel makes a patch that treats selection as the clipboard. > > 4) This allows pasting with the middle mouse button and without this > > patch the selection concept would not be used by LyX on Windows. > > 5) Nothing of what you are talking about is peformed by LyX but > > by other applications outside the control of LyX itself. > > 6) You don't want that this handy feature is implemented. > > > > Why are you against this feature? > > Bo summarized the reasons quite well. What I want is > > - A simple mental model of "selection" as well as of "clipboard". I agree > with freedesktop.org that this is important. Unfortunately several X11 > apps (one of the worst ons is klipper) do not have such a simple model for > selection, but I think nevertheless that LyX should have one.
What I question here is that those guidelines are also applied to Windows. However, if I change my hat and wear that of an X11 user, I agree with you. > - As I read Abdel's patch (and as it was meant AFAIK) it overwrites the > clipboard with the selection. This destroys a very common feature (pasting > something over a selection). Now you don't see that, but I don't > understand why. Me neither... > - The same behaviour of LyX across platforms unless there is a very > important reason against it. Such a reason could either be a different > platform standard (this is e.g. the case with the disconnected menubar on > the Mac), or in the case of the selection it is simply not available on > windows. > If you now want to reuse the middle mouse button which does nothing on > windows As it stands now, middle mouse button only sets the changed status of a document. This is really confusing. > for something else than a true selection, then that should not be > the default, but configurable. If a user switches from X11 to windows or > vice versa it is very obvious if the middle mouse button does not paste > anything on windows. If it does something slightly different on windows > than on X11 this is not so obvious and destroys the simple mental model of > selection. Therefore people who what to use a pseudo selction on windows > should explicitly enable it. > > I hope I made myself clear now. Yes, you did. My only grief is that all of this simply reduces usability and does not bring anything good on Windows. -- Enrico
