On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 08:05:31 -0700, Mark F wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:05 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> In short, Jane Doe wants Google [...] *doesn't care* if some
>> software she installed phones home or not.  
>
>Does she even know?

She doesn't, or at best she heard about it on television and ignores
it, or follows idiotic hints given by "experts" on television.

>I think this is an education challenge.

Yes, we needed to learn how to use forks and knives, to drive a car and
things like this and much more important, we needed to learn not to
trust the stranger who gives away candies at the children's playground.
People don't understand how important it is to learn how to use a
multi-tool and that strangers who give away candies in the Internet
could be the same people who give away candies at the children's
playground. Thinking barriers! We are living in an age were people visit
a weekend healer class and after that they guess they know more about
"true" healing, than somebody who studied medicine at an university.

>I still wish there were post-install configurations to choose from.
>I've never understood the all-or-nothing approach to these matters.

I installed Ubuntu from the sever image and disabled all package
bundles, let alone that my Arch Linux by default is an install without
everything and that Arch's policy is the opposite of Ubuntu's policy in
regards to auto-starts. Ubuntu auto-starts everything that could be
auto-started by default, even when installing from the server image
without even installing X. However, there is already choice, more or
less all distros provide some kind of expert install. Either be an
expert/power user or an averaged user, everything in between is risky.

You can not simply chose to install the "more privacy" meta-package, you
need to maintain "more privacy" with knowledge. You need to become
self-responsible, learning and maintenance of the install never stops.

In regards to security it's the same. First of all, after downloading
the Ubuntu or Ubuntu flavour image, the user needs to check the ISO
against the PGP signed checksums. When Ubuntu is installed, it's not
only important to upgrade, a user also needs to audit
https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ , resp.
http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/ at least once a day
and the user needs to have the skills to understand what to do or not
to do.

Regards,
Ralf
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