Hi Roman,

Thanks to Acee, we added a sentence to clarify the statement about public 
release.  Please take a look.  
https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?doc_1=draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-39&doc_2=draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-40

Thanks,
Helen

From: Roman Danyliw <r...@cert.org>
Date: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 4:38 PM
To: Dr. Helen Chen <ingwherc...@mitre.org>, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com>
Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org 
<draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org>, lsr-chairs <lsr-cha...@ietf.org>, lsr 
<lsr@ietf.org>, Christian Hopps <cho...@chopps.org>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Roman Danyliw's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-37: (with COMMENT)
Hi Helen, I have to respectfully disagree on the possible interpretations of 
this text blob. If the first sentence is intended to disavow a link to MITRE, 
the second sentence confused the issue by then stating that MITRE approved this 
document

Hi Helen,

I have to respectfully disagree on the possible interpretations of this text 
blob.  If the first sentence is intended to disavow a link to MITRE, the second 
sentence confused the issue by then stating that MITRE approved this document 
for release.

Roman

From: Dr. Helen Chen <ingwherc...@mitre.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2025 2:05 PM
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Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org; lsr-chairs 
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Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Roman Danyliw's No Objection on 
draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-37: (with COMMENT)

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Hello,

Thank you to Acee for responding to Roman’s comment about the text in Section 
5.  The paragraph in its entirety is below, and I would argue that it 
implicitly denies authority over the approval for publication of the document.

“Author affiliation with The MITRE Corporation is provided for
   identification purposes only, and is not intended to convey or imply
   MITRE's concurrence with, or support for, the positions, opinions or
   viewpoints expressed.  MITRE has approved this document for Public
   Release, Distribution Unlimited, with Public Release Case Number
   18-3281.”

Thanks,
Helen

P.S.  There are other RFCs with this same statement…
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8177/<https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_rfc8177_&d=DwMGaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=WVXMYcDyzkUrp4AGAc8mPk-Nx7f5__4hGRNuy7YcFvc&m=SNA7DYayrPNMxBLAvR30YQuwcvLHBNfUM_Ss-JgboxM8TDda9No18O95MuYN1KCw&s=-GZnSizfVWrvOl6mV3z-Hz3h60Fgc0Hukgm6T71twBw&e=>
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9129/<https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_rfc9129_&d=DwMGaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=WVXMYcDyzkUrp4AGAc8mPk-Nx7f5__4hGRNuy7YcFvc&m=SNA7DYayrPNMxBLAvR30YQuwcvLHBNfUM_Ss-JgboxM8TDda9No18O95MuYN1KCw&s=qhMeukFnnw8fbqxAcROYrqINxoprVuJ5wGzJjNbCw8k&e=>

From: Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com<mailto:acee.i...@gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, March 31, 2025 at 1:18 PM
To: r...@cert.org<mailto:r...@cert.org> <r...@cert.org<mailto:r...@cert.org>>
Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org<mailto:i...@ietf.org>>, 
draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org> 
<draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-ospf-sr-y...@ietf.org>>, 
lsr-chairs <lsr-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:lsr-cha...@ietf.org>>, lsr 
<lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>>, Christian Hopps 
<cho...@chopps.org<mailto:cho...@chopps.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-37: 
(with COMMENT)
> On Mar 31, 2025, at 12: 55 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <noreply@ ietf. 
> org> wrote: > > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for > 
> draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-37: No Objection > > When responding, please






> On Mar 31, 2025, at 12:55 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker 
> <nore...@ietf.org<mailto:nore...@ietf.org>> wrote:

>

> Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for

> draft-ietf-ospf-sr-yang-37: No Objection

>

> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all

> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this

> introductory paragraph, however.)

>

>

> Please refer to 
> https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_about_groups_iesg_statements_handling-2Dballot-2Dpositions_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=WVXMYcDyzkUrp4AGAc8mPk-Nx7f5__4hGRNuy7YcFvc&m=rswRuEZ2QztIG1Dg50Ni6me-AfgWrdv4jlz0rQ9U4TtfQdeQCQAhYw3NWCUjYabm&s=AS90HK1kh-yCkZwj_S-tDsa4vfqKc_7do0sYoL_dihA&e=

> for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.

>

>

> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:

> https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dospf-2Dsr-2Dyang_&d=DwIFaQ&c=Al8V6E3U0yBSSEuVtdZbGtsvjPA49U3WmtZAsdW0D_Q&r=WVXMYcDyzkUrp4AGAc8mPk-Nx7f5__4hGRNuy7YcFvc&m=rswRuEZ2QztIG1Dg50Ni6me-AfgWrdv4jlz0rQ9U4TtfQdeQCQAhYw3NWCUjYabm&s=6JrBJn2PLRI2bT5RVOC-DxxJz_u9KbRPtzZIrOGI_4A&e=

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> COMMENT:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Thank you to Gyan Mishra for the GENART review.

>

> ** Section 5.

>   MITRE has approved this document for Public

>   Release, Distribution Unlimited, with Public Release Case Number

>   18-3281.

>

> While I appreciate the need to acknowledge those that fund an author’s time,

> and that some employers have strict release review requirements, is the above

> text necessary or can it be removed?  It implies that the named entity has

> authority to approve the publication of the RFC once the content is in an I-D

> (which it does not).



This was a requirement for the author to participate with an affiliation. It 
would be difficult to remove this at this point.



Thanks,

Acee







>

>

>


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