Hi, Peter:
Then how about defines one new top TLV to flood such information within the 
IGP? Fox example, Stub-Link TLV? If so, other characteristics associated with 
the Link can also be advertised accordingly. 

If acceptable, we can forward this draft along this direction.


Aijun Wang
China Telecom

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 17:15, Peter Psenak <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Aijun,
> 
> the point I was trying to make was that you should think of a similar 
> mechanism for your use cases - e.g. define something that advertises the link 
> without advertising the IS adjacency and not mess up with the prefix 
> advertisement.
> 
> thanks,
> Peter
> 
>> On 05/11/2020 10:09, Aijun Wang wrote:
>> Hi, Peter:
>> Yes, RFC 5392 is the OSPF corresponding part for the inter-AS TE solution. 
>> But using these existing solutions has some limitation in deployment, as I 
>> explained in 
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/VLufuaGDiRgaflcu58FY_SHnJ7A/.
>> And, in some situations, not all of the passive interfaces are connected 
>> with another AS, then flag these interfaces using RFC 5316 or RFC 5392 is 
>> not appropriate.
>> Do you agree?
>> Best Regards
>> Aijun Wang
>> China Telecom
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:26 PM
>> To: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>; 'Acee Lindem (acee)' 
>> <[email protected]>; 'Aijun Wang' <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for 
>> draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt
>> Hi Aijun,
>> please look at rfc5316, ISIS already have a way to advertise inter-AS link 
>> without forming an adjacency.
>> thanks,
>> Peter
>>> On 05/11/2020 02:15, Aijun Wang wrote:
>>> Hi, Acee:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for this comments.
>>> The consideration for the position of flagging the passive interface have 
>>> been stated in the updated 05 version 
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-05#section-3,
>>>  as the followings:
>>> 
>>>     ISIS [RFC5029] defines the Link-Attributes Sub-TLV to carry the link
>>>     attribute information, but this Sub-TLV can only be carried within
>>>     the TLV 22, which is used to described the attached neighbor.  For
>>>     passive interface, there is no ISIS neighbor, then it is not
>>>     appropriate to use this Sub-TLV to indicate the passive attribute of
>>>     the interface.
>>> 
>>>     OSPFv2[RFC2328] defines link type field within Router LSA, the type 3
>>>     for connections to a stub network can be used to identified the
>>>     passive interface.  But in OSPFv3 [RFC5340], type 3 within the
>>>     Router-LSA has been reserved.  The information that associated with
>>>     stub network has been put in the Intra-Area-Prefix-LSAs.
>>> 
>>> What about your opinions regarding to the above statements? Currently, we 
>>> think putting the flag within the prefix attribute that associated the 
>>> passive interface is appropriate.
>>> If we can find other appropriate/acceptable place to hold this information, 
>>> we can also update the draft later accordingly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Aijun Wang
>>> China Telecom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:11 AM
>>> To: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Aijun Wang <[email protected]>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak)
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt
>>> 
>>> Hi Aijun,
>>> You still didn't answer the question as to why you didn't rework this draft 
>>> for passive interface to be an interface attribute rather than a prefix 
>>> attribute?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Acee
>>> 
>>>> On 10/1/20, 6:13 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>      Hi Aijun,
>>>      You didn't answer my question and pruned my message. Other than your 
>>> attempt to expose the topology of areas outside the area, there is no other 
>>> reason to associate the passive interface attribute with a prefix. We seem 
>>> to be in a circular discussion....
>>>      Acee
>>> 
>>>>      On 9/30/20, 10:43 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Aijun 
>>>> Wang" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>          Hi, Acee:
>>>          Except the corner cases of unnumbered interface, would you like to 
>>> illustrate other scenarios that the process does not apply?
>>>          As mentioned in last mail, knowing the passive interfaces can 
>>> assist the nodes or controller know the boundaries of the network.
>>> 
>>>          Aijun Wang
>>>          China Telecom
>>> 
>>>          > On Sep 30, 2020, at 19:47, Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>          >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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