On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Efrain Valles <effie-j...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 2011/4/5 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com>: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Efrain Valles <effie-j...@ubuntu.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hey leandro > >> > >> > >> I think you can speak for you region. I do not see any of the mayor > linux > >> vendors sponsoring FLISOL in my country. The Venezuela LoCo team has > >> actively participating since 2006. > >> > > > > It's not about the vendors....? Sorry... got lost here. > > You said you asked Canonical for support with FLISOL. particularly > moving back the release a bit. This is something that goes out of the > comunities hands. It's released as planned. I haven't seen a released > being moved because of a LinuxTag or any other mayor community event. > It is misfortunate but it is what it is. A release is not easily > handled and every day counts. > > > > >> > >> About Canonical getting a free ride. It is no wonder that ubuntu is one > of > >> the most installed distros in many cities. As far as I can the video > speaks > >> for the Ubuntu community, it does not take advantage at any moment for > free > >> publicity. Not anything different that we do when we install ubuntu. > >> > > Don't get the wrong idea... I'm not against Canonical. I say exactly the > > same thing when people try to show some RMS videos at FLISOL over here. > > That's your way of doing it and I respect it, however we see no harm > in a friendly message from people that work to bring free software to > the mainstream. About RMS he is the father of the movement and he has > great words of wisdom, why not even a video from him? > > And maybe I should've put a disclaimer: I'm speaking with my FLISOL hat > on > > -not as a member of the Ubuntu community-. I've been part of the > > international coordination of FLISOL for the last five years/editions, > and > > it has not always been an easy task. > > Never an easy task, however these video messages are a friendly HI. no > corporate agenda. so please do consider the good faith with which > these videos are made. these videos are to be used by the Venezuelan > LoCo teams in their stand and talks and even websites. I do not see > this affecting anyone and much less causing harm to the International > Free Software and Open Source movement. > > > I don't know if you remember, Efrain, a > > few years ago when some people from a certain community tried to hijack > > FLISOL? (I'm not saying that this is the case with Canonical) > > I am not aware of that but two videos cannot be seen as hijacking an > event, please do elaborate on this. > > Please read carefully. I'm not saying that Canonical is hijacking anything. I'm just telling my experience with FLISOL over the years. There has been times when certain people wanted to ban Ubuntu from FLISOL, and I've been one of the biggest supporters of the right of the Ubuntu community (or any other community) to be at FLISOL. So, please, don't assume wrong. > to be honest, the only comment bad comment I have received from these > videos is yours. if you have others I am happy to discuss these > privatelly via email or even a phonecall leave the public mailing list > cleared for better talks > > Efrain, it's nothing personal against you, it's just my (very) PPOV. I'm sorry if I offended you and I'm also a bit sad that you think that things like this can't/shouldn't be discussed in public. Anyways, this is my last reply to this thread, sorry for all the noise. Let the happy talk commence!! :D Cheers, > Thanks your understanding and great work organizing FLISOL > > > > >> > >> About the videos, like I said. The Ubuntu Venezuela team celebrates > FLISOL > >> with many different Distro teams like fedora-ve and others. I asked for > >> videos from many vendors through Maria Leandro , from fedora and we only > got > >> 2 videos. SIf you can make more videos happen for next year we can reuse > >> these since they state no year. > >> > >> The videos were shared at request of many in the ubuntu comunity > members. > >> > >> if you do not feel these should be used in your event. that is fine. but > I > >> as an Ubuntu and Kubuntu enthusiast like to have fellow members of my > >> comunity comment on FLISOL. it surelly brings awareness and futures > >> colaboration. > >> > >> Sorry if this causes disconfort > >> > >> > >> Efrain > >> El 05/04/2011 11:57, "Leandro Gómez" <leo.tel...@gmail.com> escribió: > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Efrain Valles <effie-j...@ubuntu.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > I think that was m... > >> > >> I don't how I missed the last two mails... sorry Rubén and Efrain :( > >> It was actually this I didn't want to happen... the whole video thing > and > >> the loco directory... Canonical has never been supportive of FLISOL, > maybe > >> because they never understood the event and the community behind it. > When > >> some people from the FLISOL community tried to start a conversation last > >> year about moving the Ubuntu release a couple of days in order to sync > it > >> FLISOL we got, well... nothing. Not that I was expecting Canonical to > >> actually move the Ubuntu release schedule, but an official response (at > >> least from some developer), or some discussion about it would have been > >> nice. > >> So... a Canonical that has always ignored FLISOL have now two videos > (that > >> may be shown in over 230 cities in Latin America and Spain) and the > FLISOL > >> event scheduled in the loco directory? To me, it's like giving Canonical > a > >> free ride. > >> And I'm sorry to disagree with you here, Rubén :) but from my POV, this > is > >> unacceptable. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Shall let you know > >> > > >> > > >> > 2011/3/21 Rubén Romero y Cordero <hua...@ubuntu.com>: > >> > > 2011/2/28... > >> > >> -- > >> loco-contacts mailing list > >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> loco-contacts mailing list > >> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > >> > > > > > > -- > > loco-contacts mailing list > > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > > > > > > > > -- > Efrain Valles > https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >
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