Hi,

Thanks, I think this option is perfect.
I will try to send the pull request with the both scripts as soon as possible. 
I’m just doing some final tests, to check that everything is working properly.

Best,
Gabriele.




From: Cameron Shorter
Sent: domenica 10 gennaio 2016 11:12
To: Gabriele Prestifilippo; Angelos Tzotsos
Cc: Brian M Hamlin; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind

Hi Gabriele,
Great to hear that you aim to version WebWorldWind, although I appreciate that 
it might not be ready for the next release.

I suggest that WebWorldWind be attempted to be packaged for the next release, 
but if it is not ready (with a defined version number) then we will not 
advertise it in the upcoming release. (Ie, the docs won't be included but the 
application will be on the USB, so it could be used in workshops if needed).

When a release number is sorted out, it can then be linked in with the rest of 
the documentation.
Many applications which have joined OSGeo-Live have followed this process, 
getting a beta working first, then going public with the following release.

With regards to schedule [1]:
* Draft installers should for new applications should be in place by 11 Jan 
2016. We can be a little flexible with this date.
* Feature freeze for all applications is 1 Feb 2016. This is a hard date that 
applications should be ready by.

As you might note, you have quite a bit of work to do if you are to make the 
next release. So depending on how quickly you can work, we might need to focus 
on getting a draft in place for this release, and final for next release.

What do you think? How quickly do you think you can pull components together?

Cheers, Cameron

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kO6zzmLFfprZGgp5x7Sjwi-EVN6NTGDR4KXvFVtNpR0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=0


On 9/01/2016 10:58 pm, Gabriele Prestifilippo wrote:
Dear all,
 
I’ve been talking with Patrick, and we agreed on versioning with a tagged 
release WebWorldWind, although this cannot be achieved for technical reasons 
before few weeks at least. I clearly understand that having a tagged release is 
useful for different reasons.
 
Since at the moment we cannot officially define it, I would suggest to mark it 
as ‘pre-release’ or even 0.1.0 but not formally until they can mark it. I still 
support the inclusion because, as I previously mentioned the web version is the 
one with the greatest expectation and a wider future.
 
Let me know what you think about it, or if you have other ideas regarding it. 
Unless we could wait for the next release to include it.
 
Best,
Gabriele.
 
 
 

From: Angelos Tzotsos
Sent: sabato 9 gennaio 2016 12:34
To: Gabriele Prestifilippo; Cameron Shorter
Cc: Brian M Hamlin; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind
 
Gabriele, how about a 0.x release number, until there is a feature complete 1.0 
release?
 
Best,
Angelos
 
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Ok,
I'll rephase "requirement" to "strongly request the version of World Wind Web 
installed on OSGeo-Live be allocated a version number", for the reasons listed 
below.
Gabriele, do you think this is achievable?

I think I'm safe in saying that using version numbers is in line with best 
practice software engineering, and one of the indications of project maturity 
we wish to encourage.

Cheers, Cameron
 
On 9/01/2016 9:30 am, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
+1 kalxas

On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 13:09:24 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Hi Cameron, 
 
Given that we include at least another project that uses "trunk" (for many 
years now) and not a released version, we cannot make this a hard requirement 
in my opinion
 
Best,
Angelos
 
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Hi Gabriele,
Thanks for offering to help with reducing packaging size. That will be helpful.

I also think it would be very valuable for the version of the World Wind Web to 
be installed on OSGeo-Live to be allocated a version number. There are many 
reasons for this, including:
1. People will be able to determine if the version of World Wind Web they are 
looking at is the latest version.
2. People will be able to determine if they should upgrade to a more recent 
version (because they are looking at an older version)
3. Developers and users will be able to align feature lists and bug reports 
with specific version numbers, which will help users determine whether to 
upgrade

I think that defining a package version number should be a prerequisite for 
including the package on OSGeo-Live. The version number could be called "beta" 
so long as it is considered "stable" by the developer and user community.

Warm regards, Cameron 
 
On 7/01/2016 2:22 am, Gabriele Prestifilippo wrote:
Hi, 
the Java version and the JavaScript’s one, are two different applications, so 
we need to separate them. 
I understand that the size of the Java might be a problem. I can try to work a 
bit on it and delete the not strictly necessary files from the original 
package, so to achieve a reasonable size. 
 
Regarding the web version, I may ask Patrick about a tagged release, even if 
now it seems to appear as ‘pre-release’ version. 
Even though I want to reassure you that in spite of being not even a beta, its 
usage was growing consistently in the past two years (as you may see from the 
different projects developed), and no bugs were reported. It is tagged in this 
way because not all the features available in the Java version are yet 
available.   
 
Best,
Gabriele.
 
 

From: Angelos Tzotsos
Sent: mercoledì 6 gennaio 2016 14:32
To: Cameron Shorter; Gabriele Prestifilippo
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Submit new project - NASA WorldWind
 
Thank you Gabriele for the detailed responses.
 
I also strongly support the inclusion of Nasa World Wind in OSGeoLive.
 
Regarding the size of the installation, I would like to try a basic 
installation first (without documentation to save some space) so we can find 
out how much World Wind will compress in the iso. The next step would be to try 
to use the data already present in the disk. Then we will be able to make a 
decision regarding the amount of sample data that will be needed.
 
Regarding Java vs Web version, personally I would like to see both included. 
Having a tagged release is a good sign of stability, so I would prefer to have 
a tagged version included. This would also help potential packaging efforts.
 
Best,
Angelos
 
 
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Thanks Gabriele,
Based on your responses, it seems that Go World Wind is a mature, established 
open source GIS product, which is in line with the principles of OSGeo Live.

On the downsite, it appears to be a large product, which may be a challenge to 
fit on OSGeo-Live. I'd be interested to hear thoughts from Angelos and others 
in that regard.

The documentation does appear to be comprehensive and I feel shouldn't be 
included with the OSGeo-Live release (it can be referenced). Instead just 
provide standard OSGeo-Live Project Overview and Quickstart.

Also, I request you make use of existing OSGeo-Live sample data rather that 
adding a new dataset. This reduces disk space and helps with comparisons and 
integration between applications.

--

I'm undecided on whether World Wind Web is ready. I'd be hoping to see a 
specific stable version nominated for inclusion. 
It also seems to have a relatively new development history, so might not have 
reached a stable release yet?

Would it make to bundle GeoWorldWind and WorldWindWeb together? Or are they two 
stand alone applications?

Warm regards, Cameron
 


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