On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:36:25AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 06/18/2014 05:58 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> > This is the previous kernel, plus RCU tracing, so it's not 100%
> >> > apples-to-apples (and it peaks a bit lower than the other kernel). But
> >> > here's the will-it-scale open1 throughput on the y axis vs
> >> > RCU_COND_RESCHED_EVERY_THIS_JIFFIES on x:
> >> >
> >> > http://sr71.net/~dave/intel/jiffies-vs-openops.png
> >> >
> >> > This was a quick and dirty single run with very little averaging, so I
> >> > expect there to be a good amount of noise. I ran it from 1->100, but it
> >> > seemed to peak at about 30.
> > OK, so a default setting on the order of 20-30 jiffies looks promising.
>
> For the biggest machine I have today, yeah. But, we need to be a bit
> careful here. The CPUs I'm running it on were released 3 years ago and
> I think we need to be planning at _least_ for today's large systems. I
> would guess that by raising ...EVERY_THIS_JIFFIES, we're shifting this
> curve out to the right:
>
> http://sr71.net/~dave/intel/3.16-open1regression-0.png
>
> so that we're _just_ before the regression hits us. But that just
> guarantees I'll hit this again when I get new CPUs. :)
Understood. One approach would be to scale this in a manner similar
to the scaling of the delay from the beginning of the grace period
to the start of quiescent-state forcing, which is about three jiffies
on small systems scaling up to about 20 jiffies on large systems.
> If we go this route, I think we should probably take it up in to the
> 100-200 range, or even scale it to something on the order of what the
> rcu stall timeout is. Other than the stall detector, is there some
> other reason to be forcing frequent quiescent states?
Yep. CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL+nohz_full kernels running in kernel mode don't
progress RCU grace periods. But they should not need to be all that
frequent.
Thanx, Paul
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