> > If we really care about using the LAPIC timer on systems with deeper > > than C1 support, the only alternative seems to be to test > > if it actually works or not at boot and run-time. > > Otherwise, we wait for future hardware with guaranteed > > not to break under any (BIOS) conditions ships, and check for that. > > > > Based on what I read of the HP nx6325 where the LAPIC timer > > is breaking C1, AMD is in the same boat. > > The nx6325 (Turion 64 X2) exports only C1. > I'm not sure how the conclusion was drawn that it has > a broken lapic timer as reflected in the "nolapic_timer" patch:
If both cores goes into C1 at the same time, the chipset can move the processor into a C3 like state called C1e. > + /* > + * BIOS exports only C1 state, but uses deeper power > + * modes behind the kernels back. > + */ > + .callback = lapic_check_broken_bios, > + .ident = "HP nx6325", > + .matches = { > + DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "HP > Compaq nx6325"), > + }, > + }, > > But if this is true, then I don't know how to determine on > an AMD system if the LAPIC timer is guaranteed to work -- > even for systems with just C1. > > Jordan, William, can you clarify? For K7 and K8 through and including revision E, the LAPIC timer is guaranteed to work in C1. For K8 revisions F and G, and for upcoming family 0x10 and 0x11 parts, if either bit in MSRC001_0055[28:27] is set, C1e is enabled and the LAPIC timer cannot be trusted in C1. AMD can craft a patch to sort this out as soon as we have an idea what the framework is going to look like. -Mark Langsdorf Operating Systems Research Center AMD, Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/