On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:02:46PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> 
> As far as I remember, the first time I heard about the option for meshed
> ISP's it was a for-profit organisation allowing clients to ramp up credits
> for their own use by allowing others to make use of their own uplink via
> WiFi.

I was involved with a start-up ISP that was to provide free access via
WiFi. The money for basic access and infrastructure was to come from 
advertising. This was in 2004 before Google took over advertising,
WiFi was common and so on. The startup had a business plan and a
prospective investor, some interesting locater technology, and some
interesting advertising technology.

You could buy credits for advanced services, better access, printing
from kiosks and so on.

There was a plan to go forward with a targeted advertising handheld
device similar in concept to the holograms in "Minority Report",
but implimented in 2005 or so.

Then the City of Jerusalem announced free, city wide WiFi supported
by the taxpayers (Intel was to provide the WiFi hardware for free)
and the investor disapeared.

Google announced their "Free WiFi Zones" starting with San Francisco,
and it became impossible to get money to compete.

Since then the Jerusalem City Council refused to fund the network beyond
it's original size, few others have come forward to pay for it, and
private WiFi networks proliferated because customers would walk out
when they found the free WiFi they expected was not there.

Google was never able to implement a single WiFi access point in 
San Francisco, I think the local telcos blocked them.

Several other cities have either built small public WiFi networks
and since stopped them, or never got beyond the planing stage.

The startup you are reffering to AFAIK is FON from Spain, which allows
you to get credit by sharing your Internet connection. You need a special
router to join. BT included their software in all of their new routers
but so far, no one really uses it.

People just don't want to share their Internet connection with strangers
and no one wants to pay to get home WiFi access. 

I don't know about elsewhere but many of my friends in the U.S. and here
are so burried in unsecured WiFi networks that they have trouble accessing
their own. 

In a large city it's almost impossible NOT to find a "free" network.


Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED]  N3OWJ/4X1GM

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