> > My wife actually said she probably prefers a 12" model, but can do with
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> > If, meanwhile, somebody on the list got acquainted with a place in
> > Israel to buy a non-wide linux-friendly laptop WITHOUT MS TAX, please
> > tell us. So far it looks that the MS marketing successfully forced all
> > the dealers to pre-brand all their stock laptops as MS OEM units :-(
> >
>
> Have a look at MSI, sold by ivory (www.ivory.co.il). It comes with no M$
> (either by default or as a discount, not sure what it is now).
>
> It also comes with a two year warrenty (one international).
>
> There is a 12" 2kg version I believe for a very resonable price (last time I
> checked there was a celron version for about 3800 NIS)

Hmm.... 2kg @12" is around twice as heavy as it should be at that size, and
the warranty sounds weak as well (we're looking for something with 3 years
warranty). The price surely sounds right, though...

> > Or, if there is any of you, who knows a sure legal route to the refund
> > in Israel (similar to the UK-specific story
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6144782.stm ), please tell us. I
> > do have some hope because Israeli law is a descendant of the UK one
> > AFAIU (again, IANAL).
> >
>
> I doubt that you'll get anything, my guess is that M$ will point you at IBM if
> they'll bother and IBM may ignore you or say you can return the laptop if you
> haven't used it or something like that.

I'm pessimistic as well, but I will try nevertheless. In the worst case,
if we're forced upon with the MS s/w, we'll at least copy all the MS fonts
over for use in the Linux installation.

V


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