On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Aaron wrote: > Hi, > > I have tried unsuccessfully to install debian a number of times. > I keep coming back to rh based distros, but I must admit that debian > boxes I have worked on run faster and are more stable. this is strange, since ... the advantage of Debian comes best in updates and the convenience of the usage/administration.
if you feel really significant difference in performance - this means you do something wrong ... IMHO. i do like Debian, i prefer installing Debian Server much more than RPM based one, but i am not a fanatic. performance is usually the matter of fine tuning and not installing and running redundant stuff, thus freeing resources to work. > > I beta tested Xandros and I have no idea how good it would be for a > black-box but easy to install it is, stable it is, but it isn't free. > > I would guess there are distros out there that will do just what is > needed. > > Aaron > On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 15:02, Omer Zak wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Leonid Podolny wrote: > > > > > Now to the subject. I'm going to sound the extremely heretical idea. Not > > > everyone needs a Linux router for that. What I'd do in such situation is > > > get them a dedicated router specially designed for that matter. I don't > > > mean the PC with Linux installed, but a little box the size of the adsl > > > modem, which all it is able to do is to be an adsl (or cable) router. > > > It's very cheap (~300 NIS) and usually has Linux somewhere deep inside > > > -- it's not that its manufacturers want to implement everything from the > > > beginning. You configure the computers to use DHCP, plug them in, plug > > > the modem -- it works. It surely meets all the basic requirements you've > > > specified at the original mail. The only one of your requirements that > > > it doesn't meet is being ableto show her how Linux is installed. > > > Install it on that p133 box you wanted to use and you're done > > > > While the user is naive, the installer (his sysadmin) is not. > > The suggestion to use a dedicated router eliminates two important > > advantages of DIY (Do It Yourself) Linux installation: > > 1. Access to security updates under your control and at your pace. > > 2. Ability (in principle) to audit the router's software to ensure that > > there are no hidden backdoors. > > > > By the way, how come that no Debian installer had itch, which can be > > scratched by an user-friendly GUI installer? > > > > Such a GUI should start by defining defaults for Aunt Tilly, and provide > > levels of detail for advanced users.It should also provide a space for > > building command lines (which correspond to selecte options in the GUI), > > editing them and executing them - for those advanced users, who understand > > the subject but can use help refreshing their memories. > > > > --- Omer > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which > > I may be affiliated in any way. > > WARNING TO SPAMMERS:at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > > > > > ================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----------------------------------------- there's always a place for improvement. ----------------------------------------- ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
