Hi,

I have tried unsuccessfully to install debian a number of times.
I keep coming back to rh based distros, but I must admit that debian
boxes I have worked on run faster and are more stable.

I beta tested Xandros and I have no idea how good it would be for a
black-box but easy to install it is, stable it is, but it isn't free.

I would guess there are distros out there that will do just what is
needed.

Aaron
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 15:02, Omer Zak wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Leonid Podolny wrote:
> 
> > Now to the subject. I'm going to sound the extremely heretical idea. Not
> > everyone needs a Linux router for that. What I'd do in such situation is
> > get them a dedicated router specially designed for that matter. I don't
> > mean the PC with Linux installed, but a little box the size of the adsl
> > modem, which all it is able to do is to be an adsl (or cable) router.
> > It's very cheap (~300 NIS) and usually has Linux somewhere deep inside
> > -- it's not that its manufacturers want to implement everything from the
> > beginning. You configure the computers to use DHCP, plug them in, plug
> > the modem -- it works. It surely meets all the basic requirements you've
> > specified at the original mail. The only one of your requirements that
> > it doesn't meet is being ableto show her how Linux is installed.
> > Install it on that p133 box you wanted to use and you're done
> 
> While the user is naive, the installer (his sysadmin) is not.
> The suggestion to use a dedicated router eliminates two important
> advantages of DIY (Do It Yourself) Linux installation:
> 1. Access to security updates under your control and at your pace.
> 2. Ability (in principle) to audit the router's software to ensure that
>    there are no hidden backdoors.
> 
> By the way, how come that no Debian installer had itch, which can be
> scratched by an user-friendly GUI installer?
> 
> Such a GUI should start by defining defaults for Aunt Tilly, and provide
> levels of detail for advanced users.  It should also provide a space for
> building command lines (which correspond to selecte options in the GUI),
> editing them and executing them - for those advanced users, who understand
> the subject but can use help refreshing their memories.
> 
>                                              --- Omer
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