Actually, there is a company that does Israeli ISP rating. Their metrics are more performance and reliability oriented, but I don't see why they can't add block-IPs as a metric, at least in principle....
http://www.marnetics.com/ISPrating.asp Disclaimer: I have no interest, commercial or otherwise in this company. I have never used their service, and have no idea regarding the quality of their data, or lack of thereof. Cheers, Rony > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arik Baratz > Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:18 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: AOL doesn't accept mail - free relaying of email > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > AB>> And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that > AB>> disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself into > AB>> some kind of blackhole or another. What the customer must do is > > > Oh come on. It is a common knowledge that at least some of these relays > > are too quick to add whole netblocks and too slow to explain > why they did > > that or how to make this not happen again. And the ISP couldn't > care less > > what some freak out there thinks about its policies - its responcibility > > is its own paying clients and not convinvcing some > trigger-happy sysadmin > > jumping out of his pants to be BOFH-like and blacklist whatever possible > > without too much investigation. > > As I see it, depending on who you are and how important it is for > your messages to get 'there'. > > If you're a corporate and contact mostly other corporates, mostly > you don't care. I know I don't. If someone from my company wants > to send mail to someone with an RBL that doesn't let my static IP > (I don't use the IP relay, heavens forbid) send him mail - I'm > fine with that. The person on the other side will have to find a > way to accept this mail message, because it's also his priority > to do business with us. > > If you're a private person, or contact mostly private people, > that's damn annoying. In the rare occasions I have encountered it > I opted to use a different provider to send a message telling > that person that they are using an RBL and he should do something > about it. > > Personally I use a BezeqInt ISDN line to send and receive email, > and it seems like this IP range is pretty much okay. I had it > blocked once, and the BezeqInt guys went out of their way to un-block it. > > But BezeqInt is guilty of spamming me themselves, for which I did > never forgive them. I have stopped buying new services from them > and I am slowly switching. > > There should really be an Israeli ISP monitoring site, which will > score ISPs based on their non-blackholeness, but I am not the one > who will set it up so I have no right to speak about it. > > You're right about RBL admins that are too trigger happy, but I > never encountered a case when I asked to be removed (when I had > my own address range) and not removed within a few days. Yes, > some ignoramus has misconfigured a mail server on my range, and I > picked up the pieces. > > And regarding the ISP's responsibility for the customer - the > quick BezeqInt reaction came after I have told them that since I > use their network to send email, and it is important to me that > the email gets there, I hold them responsible for any blackholing > of their range and will switch if I can't send my email decently > from my equipment. > > -- Arik > > ====================== > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
