AB>> And they should. They should suffer for choosing an ISP that
AB>> disrespects its own acceptable use policy, and gets itself into
AB>> some kind of blackhole or another. What the customer must do is

Oh come on. It is a common knowledge that at least some of these relays
are too quick to add whole netblocks and too slow to explain why they did
that or how to make this not happen again. And the ISP couldn't care less
what some freak out there thinks about its policies - its responcibility
is its own paying clients and not convinvcing some trigger-happy sysadmin
jumping out of his pants to be BOFH-like and blacklist whatever possible
without too much investigation.

It is impossible to prevent sending email from a customer of an ISP to any
address on the internet - be the mail contents UCE or not. It is not
possible for the ISP to know if the content of the message is UCE or not.
So what the hell you want them to do? Cut their own throats by terminating
contracts with paying customers just because some obsucre email address
claiming to be sysadmin demands that?

This all "spam blocking" fun have gotten by far out of proportion nowdays.
Every week, and later - almost every other day I hear from legitimate
users having their legitimate emails blocked because of some
"spamblocking" usually from third-party "relay lists" that answer along
the line of "somebody from your country once sent spam, so we blocked the
whole class A - if you want to send email again, you better choose another
country to live or piss off".
Do you propose for these users to start hopping ISPs (on the way
convincing  all relatives and acquaintances to change their address books)
in hope they will find one that would satisfy the spamblockers? Do
you really think this is the solution for anything? For the spammer to
change ISP is a matter of one configuration setting in his spam machine.
For the legitimate Joe User is like moving to another city. So who do you
want to punish?

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