Quoting Xavier Gentoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Well, you may not like it, but you are one. There's no way that
> somebody
> > could know everything about everything, and that's why we specialize
> in
> > different things. You have no choice but accept that most of the
> > technologies and products in this world you will never completely
> > dissect and understand -- it just all got too big for one person.
> 
> Objection. 95% of people don't own BMW, use Hitachi DVDs, have an iMac
> at home 
> and only drink Lipton "tea". That's because there's competition
and
> that's 
> because they have something to choose from.

You're barging into an open door here. Nowhere in my message was I talking 
about competition, or lack thereof. I was saying that every single one of us 
understands some of the technologies he's using, and blindly accepts and 
consumes most others, for good and bad. That's an unfortunate property of the 
exceedinly complex world that we live in.

I said that as a response to Gilad's opinion that there are other properties 
of software besides usability and utility in the real world, such as moral 
issues of software freedom or technical issues of code hackability, that 
should interest someone who doesn't specialize in computers in school. I do 
not agree with that. I hope I'm coming across clearer now.

As to competition, unfortunately you're very correct -- Microsoft has a strong 
and abusive monopoly on the OS and software market, especially here in Israel. 
More on that below.

> > The "basic understanding" you mentioned elsewhere in your
e-mail is
> what
> > makes all the difference -- it's very good to thrive to have a basic
> > understanding of everything, but tweaking the source of your word
> > processor is way beyond that. So the boy who specializes in music in
> his
> > school has a computer class, and you as a teacher must give him the
> > knowledge that will serve him best when he later has to use a computer
> > (as a *consumer*), and not draw him into the free software argument
> and
> > make him a showcase of your opinion at the expense of his time and
> > mindshare.
> 
> Let me summarize you the free software argument in schools for you so
> that you 
> rethink your above statement:
> 
> 1) There's no reason why a state maintained school should waste
> taxpayers' 
> money for proprietary software when an [equally good] free alternative 
> exists. In fact, in a people's government (wow, a herd of pigs flying
> by) 
> there is absolutely no reason why proprietary software should be used at
> all. 

Again, you're hitting beside the mark. In a perfect world, you would be 
completely correct. However, your message is somewhat akin to that of the 
sixties hippie pacifists: Lets just all stop fighting, throw all our weapons 
away, and there will be world peace. As reality has showed, our world is a 
little more complicated than that.

I agree that the Microsoft monopoly is terrible in just about every way 
possible, and we must do our best to change the situation. However, *today* 
the poor boy who learns music *will* have to use Word, whether you like it or 
not, because we haven't done changing the world yet. So making him a tool in 
the anti-Microsoft revolution is irresponsible towards him.

I think that the way to changing the Microsoft situation lies through the 
computer specialists. Those are the people who can handle changing software 
environments. At this point, even among this folk there's very little 
awareness to Microsoft alternatives and issues of software freedom. Especially 
in Israel -- c.f. the thread about Israeli web development. *That's* where our 
efforts should be concentrated. This includes schools, too -- I definitely 
think that kids specializing in computers at schools should learn different 
kinds of software, especially free software, and should be made aware of the 
issues of software freedom and free competition.

However, kids who will only use computers as users, and the only reason they 
learn computers is to be able to make them do their job with minimum effort, 
should learn the tools that they will get to use in the real world, and for 
the time being, these are Microsoft tools.


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