On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Igor Chudov wrote:

> A closer look at the ha-debug files, that I posted here an hour ago,
> shows that there is a bit of extra detail about reading config files
> and then all the same stuff as in ha-log.
>
> At this point, I am beginning to have my doubts about this whole
> heartbeat system and its ability to serve for years, in what looks to
> me like  simple configuration.
>
> Even more than the fact that it does not work, I am bugged that it is
> essentially not transparent, not troubleshootable, and if something
> goes wrong with it, it will be hard to troubleshoot under stress.
>
> I mean, I am really asking a basic question, why exactly do they
> decide to become, or not become, masters? And there is no answer to
> this most important questions in the logs. Just nothing.
>
> The "corosync" project is also unmanageable, having a GUI that does
> not work, completely opaque XML based configuration, and extremely
> poor documentation.
>
> The reason for trying to create this setup is that we have a three
> year old setup, also based on drbd and heartbeat. This system is
> having "trouble" because somehow or other, it became a lot slower than
> it has been. That is so, even though the hardware is just fine.
> Everything just became slower.
>
> In a somewhat similar vein to the current situation, this old system
> is quite resistant to troubleshooting as well.
>
> I think that I will do a complete OS reinstall on these two new
> machines and will try again, but at this point I am much less
> optimistic.
>
> I would like to say that I am very thankful for your help and still
> have some hopes, but much less optimistic than I was.
>
> So, are there any simple alternatives to what I am trying to do?

Igor,
   I have been using heartbeat for about a decade now and it has been very 
reliable.

the problem here is finding where the logs are going.

you had one batch of logs that showed exactly the type of thing that I expected 
to see (the ones where you started heartbeat 10 min later and then something 
external to heartbeat shut it down)

this is why I asked you to check the logd.cf to see if it's sending logs 
elsewhere. For example, it could be sending them to syslog and if we look there 
we will find what we need.

the other option is to disable logd and define logfile (if it's still supported 
in the 3.x version you are running). i.e. something like 'logfile 
/var/log/ha-log'




if we can't see the logs of what's happening, it is impossible to troubleshoot. 
You did have one set of files that showed what is happening, what was different 
about that run.

I sympathise with the problems you are having with your old system, but it 
becoming slower is almost certinly not related to heartbeat.

David Lang

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