Janek Warchoł <janek.lilyp...@gmail.com> writes: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:12 AM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: >> soundsfromsound <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Do you guys have a PayPal donation link or something where perhaps I >>> could send a little something your way? I couldn't find anything on >>> the website... :) >> >> Then I need to rethink my strategies. > > ...and we (Lily team) may need to rethink our strategies as well. > Ben, we have this website about sponsoring Lily development: > http://www.lilypond.org/sponsoring.html > should we make it more visible? or should we make it more clear how it works? > >> Of course, I am only a single developer and so I do >> not "scale": give me ten times the money and I can't actually do more >> than I do currently, but I might be around for quite longer, and others >> will then be able to back off a bit: there are some who are _really_ >> supporting me a lot. > > Spreading the load of supporting David over more people would > definitely be a good thing. > As for the "scaling" thing: it's not like giving David more money > wouldn't do us good. Imagine that next month David receives 10 times > the money he usually gets: we'd have David covered for next ~10 > months,
More like the next 6 months. The current level is not something I can sustain indefinitely as it means skipping social security and not having any fallback when things go wrong. And actually I could down that kind of amount into the state pension fund in one go, and still be quite below average in coverage for the time I worked fully on LilyPond so far. To put this into perspective: <URL:http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armutsgrenze#Relative_Armutsgrenzen>. "Poverty endangered" is €940 of available net income in Germany _after_ deducting health care and taxes. I got about €600 which clearly counts as "poor". In Switzerland, you are considered poor if you have €822 left after health care, taxes, and reasonable rent. I had about €200 left when we are talking about "the money he usually gets", but then the cost of living here is of course less than in Switzerland. So _if_ we had a general LilyPond fund catering for money flow and it was considered inappropriate to direct more money in my direction than to thwart immediate starvation, I'd likely be pissed. And likely quite a few other people would be pissed to get even less. At the current point of time there is just not enough to get into a fight over. Since I put out regular reports, I guess we'll notice when this changes, and at some point of time we might think about centrally managed alternatives. But I don't think that this is going to be anytime soon. > and we could "hire" another developer with the money that we'd > otherwise give David. The problem here is that we don't have a good notion of a "we" that could do such things. Since we don't have some official organization receiving and distributing money (and that means quite a bit of additional work and costs on the side), it remains the responsibility of individual contributors to figure out where they see their efforts put to best use. If some millionaire pipes up and states "I'll cover David for the next five years", then there will be a good incentive to think about ways in which we can let the willingness of users to express their appreciation with monetary means work out to the best of LilyPond in other ways. And, if needed, form some administrative body for that. And, of course, if we get enough people saying "I'd be willing to contribute monetary means to LilyPond development, but not the stuff David does", it would not matter whether or not I can live from what I get for trying to figure out how people _not_ wanting to support me could usefully invest into LilyPond. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
