Hi all,

Perhaps someone can help me here.  I'm trying to set the Huron Carol (old
hymn written by St Jean de Brebeuf in the 1640s).  I'm having trouble with
his name, which requires an e (accent aigu), and I'm getting a couple of
strange characters in the output.  Also, in the vers in the original Wendat
language, the common way to depict one certain sound is with an "8", but
Lily won't let me put that in lyrics.

Using Lily 2.13.0, with jEdit LilyPondTool -- I *think* with UTF-8 (how can
I be sure?)

Can somebody help me straighten up the accent and character problem?

Thanks,

Gordon+

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>    1. time signature: 3.5/4 (stefankaegi)
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>    3. Re:time signature: 3.5/4 (James E. Bailey)
>    4. Re:time signature: 3.5/4 (James E. Bailey)
>    5. Re:Embedded PS graphics into scores (Patrick McCarty)
>    6. Re:time signature: 3.5/4 (stefankaegi)
>    7. Re:time signature: 3.5/4 (James E. Bailey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:27:16 +0100
> From: stefankaegi <ska...@hispeed.ch>
> Subject: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: lilypond mailing list <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
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> Hi
>
> I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> (three and a half quarters).
>
> How can I do this?
>
> Thank you for your advice
>
> Best wishes
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:51:32 +0100
> From: Reinhold Kainhofer <reinh...@kainhofer.com>
> Subject: Re: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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> Am Donnerstag, 19. November 2009 18:27:16 schrieb stefankaegi:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> > (three and a half quarters).
> >
> > How can I do this?
>
> How about 7/8?
>
> If you want special beam grouping, you'll need some tweaks.
> Also, if you want it to display as 3.5/4, you'll also need some \overrides.
>
> Cheers,
> Reinhold
> - --
> - ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
>   * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
>   * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
>   * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:17 +0100
> From: "James E. Bailey" <derhindem...@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: stefankaegi <ska...@hispeed.ch>
> Cc: lilypond mailing list <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Message-ID: <bfe52301-1553-4400-81f9-d69acbf58...@googlemail.com>
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>
> On 19.11.2009, at 18:27, stefankaegi wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> > (three and a half quarters).
> >
> > How can I do this?
> >
> > Thank you for your advice
> >
> > Best wishes
>
> The easiest way is probably to create a hidden 7/8 time signature,
> and override the displayed time signature with markup showing what
> you want.
>
> If you speak german, there's a german lilypond forum at
> www.lilypondforum.de
>
> James E. Bailey
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:00:19 +0100
> From: "James E. Bailey" <derhindem...@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: stefankaegi <ska...@hispeed.ch>
> Cc: lilypond mailing list <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Message-ID: <13f9a774-0804-4163-989c-4e81bd5ce...@googlemail.com>
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>
> On 19.11.2009, at 18:27, stefankaegi wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> > (three and a half quarters).
> >
> > How can I do this?
> >
> > Thank you for your advice
> >
> > Best wishes
>
> The easiest way is probably to create a hidden 7/8 time signature,
> and override the displayed time signature with markup showing what
> you want.
>
> If you speak german, there's a german lilypond forum at
> www.lilypondforum.de
>
> James E. Bailey
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:10:47 -0800
> From: Patrick McCarty <pnor...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Embedded PS graphics into scores
> To: Jes?s Guillermo Andrade <gandr...@usermail.com>
> Cc: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Message-ID: <20091119191047.ga1...@mail.google.com>
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>
> Hi,
>
> On 2009-11-19, Jesús Guillermo Andrade wrote:
> > Thanks Patrick for your advice: Im sending a working minimal example
> > for your (and everybody's!) consideration. I cannot figure out this
> > behaviour.  Here it follows:
>
> I removed the "showpage" operator from your Postscript code, and that
> solved the problem of extra pages.  I changed the strategy for
> variable assignments so that everything works correctly.  The
> alignment of the arrows does not look accurate, but hopefully this new
> snippet will help you achieve what you're trying to do:
>
> %%% Begin snippet %%%
>
> \version "2.13.8"
> %\include "comunes.ily"
> %\include "predefined-cuatro-fretboards.ily"
> %\include "predefined-strokes.ily"
>
> % Finger stroke symbols
> strokeUp = "
> /arrowdict 14 dict def
> arrowdict begin
>     /mtrx matrix def
> end
>
> /arrow
>   {arrowdict begin
>     /headlength exch def
>     /halfheadthick exch 2 div def
>     /halfthick exch 2 div def
>     /tipy exch def  /tipx exch def
>     /taily exch def /tailx exch def
>
>     /dx tipx tailx sub def
>     /dy tipy taily sub def
>     /arrowlength dx dx mul dy dy mul add sqrt def
>     /angle dy dx atan def
>     /base arrowlength headlength sub def
>
>     /savematrix mtrx currentmatrix def
>
>     tailx taily translate
>     angle rotate
>
>     0 halfthick neg moveto
>     base halfthick neg lineto
>     base halfheadthick neg lineto
>     arrowlength 0 lineto
>     base halfheadthick lineto
>     base halfthick lineto
>     0 halfthick lineto
>     closepath
>
>     savematrix setmatrix
>   end
> } def
>     newpath
>     4 3 4 .9 .9 2 2 .2 sqrt mul 2 div
> arrow .65 setgray fill
> "
>
> strokeDown = "
>    0.3     setlinewidth
>    0.5 0   moveto
>    0.5 2   lineto
>    0.2 1.4 lineto
>    0.5 2   moveto
>    0.8 1.4 lineto
>    stroke
> "
>
> %%% NOW COMES THE FILE
> \paper{
>    %annotate-spacing = ##t
>    %after-title-space=20\mm
>    indent=0\mm
>    line-width=190\mm
>    #(set-paper-size "letter")
> }
>
> \header {
>    tagline = ##f
>    title = "Viajera del Río"
>    subtitle = "Vals Venezolano"
>    composer = \markup {
>      \column \roman \right-align {"Manuel YÁNEZ"
>          \lower #2 \tiny "Transcrito por Jesús G. Andrade."
>          \lower #1 \tiny "Conservatorio Vicente E. Sojo."
>          \vspace #1
>      }
>    }
>    meter = \markup {
>      \postscript #strokeUp
>      \postscript #strokeUp
>      \postscript #strokeDown
>      \postscript #strokeDown
>      \postscript #strokeUp
>    }
> }
>
> %%% HEADER END.
>
> %%% MUSIC PART
>
> melody = \relative c' {
> %  \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility =
> #begin-of-line-invisible
> \override Score.RehearsalMark #'font-size = #-2
> %  \override MultiMeasureRestText #'self-alignment-X = #DOWN
>    \time 3/4
>    \clef treble
>    \key a \major
>    r4 e8 fis\( \times 2/3 {fis\)gis a} %1
>    \bar "||"
>    gis4 r8 e8 fis gis16 a %2
>    }
>
>    \score {
>    <<
>    \new Voice = "melodia" { \melody }
>    >>
>    %\midi { }
> }
>
> %%% End snippet %%%
>
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:48:41 +0100
> From: stefankaegi <ska...@hispeed.ch>
> Subject: Re: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: "James E. Bailey" <derhindem...@googlemail.com>
> Cc: lilypond mailing list <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Message-ID: <1258660121.10413.6.ca...@localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Do you have any idea how to do this override stuff? Sorry, I have no
> clue. Will check out the forum.
>
> Cheers, Stefan
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 19.11.2009, 19:00 +0100 schrieb James E. Bailey:
> >
> > On 19.11.2009, at 18:27, stefankaegi wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> > > (three and a half quarters).
> > >
> > >
> > > How can I do this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for your advice
> > >
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> >
> >
> > The easiest way is probably to create a hidden 7/8 time signature, and
> > override the displayed time signature with markup showing what you
> > want.
> >
> >
> > If you speak german, there's a german lilypond forum at
> > www.lilypondforum.de
> >
> >
> > James E. Bailey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:10:14 +0100
> From: "James E. Bailey" <derhindem...@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: time signature: 3.5/4
> To: stefankaegi <ska...@hispeed.ch>
> Cc: lilypond mailing list <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Message-ID: <8ee0cb0b-c4d0-4145-930d-bf12ec2d1...@googlemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> As a general rule, I would suggest the learning manual, chapter 4
> (and everything else before it) to understand a) how lilypond works,
> and b) how to make changes, i.e., \overrides
>
> On 19.11.2009, at 20:48, stefankaegi wrote:
>
> > Do you have any idea how to do this override stuff? Sorry, I have no
> > clue. Will check out the forum.
> >
> > Cheers, Stefan
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, den 19.11.2009, 19:00 +0100 schrieb James E. Bailey:
> >>
> >> On 19.11.2009, at 18:27, stefankaegi wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to have the time signature "3+1/2 / 4"
> >>> (three and a half quarters).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How can I do this?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your advice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes
> >>
> >>
> >> The easiest way is probably to create a hidden 7/8 time signature,
> >> and
> >> override the displayed time signature with markup showing what you
> >> want.
> >>
> >>
> >> If you speak german, there's a german lilypond forum at
> >> www.lilypondforum.de
> >>
> >>
> >> James E. Bailey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> James E. Bailey
>
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