I just ran a file with each accidental on a single note. The compile result did not show a difference between cfi and cfu even though makam.ly says there is a difference - so is there one? Or is this more of a midi thing? Jay
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Joseph Wakeling < joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net> wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > > > Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 17, 2009 11:30 AM > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:07:44PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > >>> Neil Puttock wrote: > >>> > Can you suggest any improvements for this snippet's > > >>> documentation? It > >>> > does already mention where the pitch names are defined > > >>> (ly/makam.ly). > >>> > >>> An actual link to LM section 4.6.3 would help. Also, the details of > the > >>> location of the ly/ folder are not correct. It gives the location as > >>> being, > >>> > >>> INSTALLDIR/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ > > > > Yes, but that is under the section headed > > "Downloaded from lilypond.org" ... > > Oh boy, I was clearly having a great day yesterday ... 'Reading only the > first half of everything' syndrome, both the LM section _and_ Graham's > message discussing adding to the docs. > > Anyway, it seems that his suggestion must have got through on a > subliminal level at least, hence my weird follow up email talking about > expanding the Makam snippet into a NR section. > > >>> I know the snippet documentation is meant to be brief but why not add a > >>> note-name table -- or if not in the documentation, in the snippet > source > >>> that you get when you click on the example? > >> > >> We could add this to pitches.itely and world.itely (appropriately > >> split up). Trevor can help you get the documentation source, > >> proofread your texinfo changes, and prepare a patch. > > > > Happy to do this, Joseph. Just tip me a wink > > if you wish to do this. > > Yup, I'll see what I can do. I'll try to prepare a patch with git. It > probably makes it easier to do it in NR because I can prepare the table > with texinfo instead of .ly markup. > > >> Trevor: the actual table goes in pitches.itely (obviously), while > >> we should add a NR 2.9.2 Makam or Turkish or something. I guess > >> that section will only contain a "References for..." subsection, > >> but that's fine. > > > > Hhm. I'll have a think about it but as > > I know precisely zero about this I'd need some > > help. And from what I've seen on the lists > > I don't relish the idea much, as there seems to > > be little consensus. If someone wants to write > > that section I'd be happy to guide them and > > insert the mark-up. > > I know no more than you about Makam but there are surely enough > resources available to be able to write something that makes sense and > extends the current snippet. As for sections -- my preference would be > to group all Makam-related stuff together, pitches and all. This > replicates 2.9.1 on Arabic music, where the note names are discussed in > the second section. > > (Arabic note-names are certainly mentioned, in brief, in the 'Note names > in other languages' section of 1.1.1 but they correspond much better to > the standard semitone and quarter-tone pitches than the Makam pitches > do. So we have two approaches: either Makam as a self-contained entry > in World Music or an extra section in 1.1.1 referring to non-Western > pitches. I'd go for the former.) > > What about translations? Reading through the Makam snippet I noticed > that it contained multiple translations alongside the core English text. > How do I address the issue of divergence between English and the other > texts? > > Best wishes, > > -- Joe > -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694
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