On Fri 30 Apr 2021 at 05:31:50 (+0000), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Okay, so here's a thing: I don't know this term (let vibrate), and > > if I did, I'm not sure how it would apply in this context (it's a > > tie, right?). > > Have you actually looked into the Notation Reference, section 'Ties'? > A few paragraphs after the start of the section you can find > documentation for `\laissezVibrer`!
It's ironic that \laissezVibrer follows on directly from \repeatTie on page 57, but you might miss it if the name means nothing to you, and the next illustration doesn't catch your eye. > > There is an example in the Snippets under "Expressive Marks," but > > nothing in the main manual under "Expressive Marks" nor "Long > > Repeats," and I would have never found it. > > Hmm. In the index there is > > tie, in repeats > > which points to the right place. Again, it's ironic that tie, in repeats points to page 155, and the next entry, tie, laissez vibrer is at the top of the next column (pointing to page 57). But when you turn to page 155, the nearest mention of laissez vibrer is a hundred pages away. Of course, the underlying problem is that the name \laissezVibrer is used for two musically opposite effects, so it would obviously help if the index entry tie, in repeats pointed to both \repeatTie and \laissezVibrer. > So please tell us exactly what index entries you were trying to look > up, and which are still missing. [Please use the Notation Reference > for the current development version, 2.23.2, to do that] The page references I gave above are for 2.22.0, the last version that I downloaded as one big tarball. Now turning to 2.23.2, I see that the irony is compounded: \repeatTie has moved to the bottom of page 56, so \laissezVibrer isn't on the same page. However, the index entries do point to the same area, which may or may not help if you don't know the terminology. But I couldn't help noticing that, if you use the Contents rather than the Index, the lengthy section § 1.4 Repeats now doesn't cover ties at all, nor does it point back to Ties (which falls under § 1.2 Rhythms unconnected with repeats). It would be hard to miss the connection if the two examples at pp56–7 were combined on one staff. There's an oblique reference to \repeatTie on page 161 under Known issues and warnings. Might this be preceded by a paragraph on the use of \laissezVibrer and \repeatTie, with a pointer back to pp56–7? BTW I've been using the notation \creepIn for sixty years. Pictorially, it's the reverse of \laissezVibrer. Fortunately for users, LilyPond didn't catch onto the name before deciding on \repeatTie. I see that others are searching for this notation: https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/62495/how-would-you-notate-a-non-accent Cheers, David.
