On Wed 13 May 2020 at 16:35:48 (-0500), David Nalesnik wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:34 PM antlists <antli...@youngman.org.uk> wrote: > > > > On 13/05/2020 16:38, David Kastrup wrote: > > > Given the number of English-speaking LilyPond users who all share the > > > somewhat strange habit of calling a b-flat "b" if there is a flat in the > > > key signature, it is sort of a safe bet that you are not the first to > > > make this kind of proposal. > > > > Are these the same ones who call b an h? > > > > Certainly for someone who's mother tongue is English (NOT American) I'd > > never call b-flat a b because how would I tell whether it's flat or not :-) > > > > ! hear it a lot in the US. (And it's often correlated with losing > sight of the key signature...)
Assuming ! stands for "I" and not negation, I can't say that I've met English speakers in either the UK or US who use b and h for Bflat and B. Under what circumstances do you hear it: amateur choirs and orchestral players, professionals, or in academic duscussions of German music? Cheers, David.
