Evan, Thanks for your feedback. Feedback from new users is important for improving the Learning Manual.
From: Evan Driscoll <eva...@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:40 PM To: Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> Cc: Robert Hickman <robehick...@gmail.com>, Kieren MacMillan <kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca>, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>, Lilypond-User Mailing List <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Subject: Re: Slurs do not work with Larsen articulations Sorry to jump in here as someone who just (re-)signed up for the list, but I actually find +Note that @code{[} and @code{]} do not enclose the notes to be +slurred. potentially confusing. I would say something like either "Note that the first note of the slur appears before the opening @code{(}" or "Note that the @code{(} marking the beginning of a slur appears after the first note of the slur", and ditto for beams. (I might say "note pitch" instead of note too, but that's a more minor point.) There is a point that I was trying to make with these changes, without jumping right out and saying it (because I couldn’t find a good place to jump out and say it). In LilyPond, *ALL* extra things that apply to a note are added *after* a note, not before. And they are *not* added after a "note pitch". A note consists of a pitch plus a duration. For a given note, either the pitch or the duration can be implicit, which means they are not included in the input but instead get their value from the previous note. Following the note, we get all the modifiers. This pattern needs to be understood to be successful in working with LilyPond. Once you understand this, it's clear that you can't use the ABC notation of enclosing a series of notes in parentheses. In the context of the Learning Manual, pitches and durations are introduced in section 1.2.1. It seems like it would be unfriendly to clutter that section with a discussion about modifications coming after the note. Section 2.1 is where we start to introduce all the other things we can add to a sequence of notes. Section 2.1.3 Ties and Slurs is the first place we add things to the end of a note. That's why I put the general comment at section 2.1.3 and then put the specific comment about slurs in the Slurs section under that heading. Apparently this is confusing to the new reader. I thought that the combination of "Ties and slurs are indicated by adding special codes after the notes to which they apply" and "The starting note [of a slur] and ending note are marked with ( and ), respectively" would be equivalent to the statement "Note that the ( marking the beginning of a slur appears after the first note of the slur". And the "Note that ( and ) do not enclose the notes of the slur" was aimed at clarifying a somewhat common misconception. Do you think it would be better to eliminate the "Ties and slurs are indicated by adding special codes after the notes to which they apply" and just say about slurs: "The starting note and ending note are marked with ( and ), respectively. Note that the ( marking the beginning of the slur appears after the first note of the slur." Thanks, Carl _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user