> On 9 Nov 2016, at 13:37, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > > Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com> writes: > >>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 10:45, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: >>> >>> The problem with appoggiature is that their timing is loose as the >>> transition to the main note is not supposed to be a rhythmical accent. >>> If you listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQseNJP_bzk in >>> comparison to most renditions, you'll find that I execute the >>> appoggiature on the long side, passing the "proper" moment (and yes, >>> I know that I have only executed the explicitly written ones in the >>> manuscript with "violine concertante" as I was too lazy to figure out a >>> strategy myself when the top voice is almost but not quite a solo voice >>> in a string quartet). >> >> You need an expert: one of my teachers could do Baroque improvisations. >> >> The long grace notes, I usually prefer toward the half written value, >> though some perform the full value. > > An appoggiatura does not feel like a "grace note" to me. Vaccai states > in his singing exercises that the appoggiatura should be _at least_ the > written value. The point being that the _main_ note pitch is > uninteresting and is what the note relaxes rather than resolves to.
The execution varied considerably, according to Harvard Concise, giving an example of a 1/8 in small print connected to a 1/2-note: The French might execute it before the main note, otherwise as half the written value, the value, or longer, plus some. > Of course masking this change by executing it simultaneously with > _significant_ changes in other voices is a perfectly valid kind of > execution. But it becomes almost impossible to do this with an > articulation that differentiates the appoggiatura from a regular note: > when transcribing music played in that manner, no appoggiatura would > ever appear. > > Which is vaguely disturbing to me. So I might be overdoing my "musical > pronunciation" as a sign of me being unable to convey very subtle > differences in a sovereign manner. I prefer no overlap in the ornaments, that is, legato style. Even in Balkan music, overlap does not seem necessary. _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
