2016-11-09 0:07 GMT+01:00 Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com>: > >> On 8 Nov 2016, at 23:41, Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 2016-11-08 22:20 GMT+01:00 Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com>: >> >>> And a reason of writing a complex time signature might be to make it >>> impossible for the performer to follow it: In Balkan music, one plays by >>> ear, and the variation is greater than the irrational time signature >>> examples I gave. A Western musician when seeing 12/8, 12 = 3+2+2+3+2 with >>> quadruplets on them, might try to play it as exactly as possible, but that >>> is not how it should be performed. >> >> Let me step in here. >> >> This sounds (partly) like obfuscating the music to force the reader of >> the score to do some thorough studies before trying to perform. > > Western composers have done it for a long time. Somebody wrote time > signatures with e and pi decades ago, and modern complexity takes it to an > another level. Cf. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46w99bZ3W_M > > As for myself, I just happened to discover a way to typeset it. > >> Isn't it a good idea to do _always_ such studies? >> You can't even perform baroque-music adequat without them. >> Another example, I recall several printed editions of >> Flamenco-Alegrias in 3/4, but following exactly the 3/4 would come out >> completely wrong. It's often easier to get an raw glance, though. >> >> Reading a score is not (and never was) enough to get an impression how >> the music _should_ sound or to perform it. >> >> So I ask myself, why make it even more difficult for the reader with >> impossible things? > > But for whom do you notate? Flamenco music does not notate the correct time > signature. If you would toss skilled Western musicians a score, how would you > notate it? Getting them to study Flamenco music and its notational traditions > would be very costly. >
Isn't _every_ written notation an approximation? Baroque often notates only a skeleton and the musician performing it has to fill in, ofcourse needing the knowledge howto. (Only one example, a plethora of others existing....) And I _am_ a western musician, who learned Flamenco. I looked for and found a good teacher and yes, this costs money. Cheers, Harm _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
