Hi Kevin,
Am 27.04.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Kevin Barry:
Dear All,
Three recent threads (are we the future, mutopia, and new users'
feelings about the docs) have prompted me to start a new one rather
than write separate replies to each. Apologies in advance for the
length, but I would be very grateful for some replies.
I am very happy to say that a module I offered at the university where
I teach, on preparing scores with lilypond, has been taken up by the
students (whether the course runs or not is their choice so I consider
it a democratic victory!), and will run for twelve weeks this
forthcoming October-December. I will have about ten sophister B.A.
students (music students at the end of their degrees).
Congratulations!
The scope of the course will be to teach some of the finer points of
engraving (Gould is the module reference text) and then get them to
produce their own editions of out-of-copyright scores which we will
then try to upload to mutopia (and perhaps imslp, but I haven't looked
into that).
So a few things:
1. I'm viewing this as an opportunity to `turn' a few of our students
(who mostly seem to use pirated copies of Sibelius). I haven't
researched the module yet but I hope that I will have some exemplary
scores to show off LilyPond when the time comes around. The only
commercially available one that I am aware of is Urs and Janek's Fried
songbook. (By the way, I read in another thread that they sold framed
A3 pages from it - are they still doing that? I would love one) If
anyone can point me in the direction of more LilyPond-engraved
material that would be great.
What I know from the community is
https://edition-kainhofer.com/de/ and
http://www.xn--schne-noten-tfb.de/
The framed A3 pages were an item in our (failed) crowdfunding initiative
to make the edition free. As nobody took that one we didn't actually
produce one, so nothing is "in stock". However, one could always think
about that.
2. There seems to be a consensus among a small group here that
LilyPond's default output isn't really publishing standard.
Definitely not. But I don't think *any* notation program does that. IMO
LilyPond's default output is much closer to publishing standard than
Finale's or Sibelius' (I don't know about Amadeus or SCORE).
But there are two different things to this topic: The overall layout and
appearance and the detail engraving issues.
The latter is the question of how many items you have to touch and fix
to get the details to your publication standards, the former the issue
of global settings.
I've never engraved a full score with it (I do examples and diagrams
for my own work or the work of other academics), so I've never really
bumped up against this issue. Can anyone list the things that they
routinely improve? I know Kieran and some others proposed creating
some stylesheets to help in this area (and somewhere I have a very
nice engraving of the first page of Beethoven's Op. 10 sonatas) - was
there any progress with that?
Partially.
There is at least the place ready for it in openLilyLib, and some
thought has been given about a possible interface and code design - but
not too much. This is "blocked" by my work on font selection. I've
written about my progress on a font selection interface in this post:
http://lilypondblog.org/2015/03/managing-alternative-fonts-with-lilypond/
But while continuing my work on that track I realized that some if not
most of the work should go into LilyPond itself. So currently I'm
preparing a patch that will significantly simplify and enhance the
possibilities to switch text and music fonts in LilyPond. Only when
that's ready and through I will continue with the stylesheets library
(not only because of the time but of course because that relies on the
font interface).
I think when the time is ready I'll ask for some discussion here.
3. Since I will, in effect, be creating a tutorial for new LilyPond
users, perhaps I could encourage some collaboration here, and make the
results freely available. MuseScore has an excellent series of
tutorial videos, for example.
You know http://benlemon.me/blog/music/lilypond/operation-lilypond
?
I'm not necessarily saying that format would be best for LilyPond, but
I do think there is room in the ecosystem for a tutorial in addition
to the (excellent) learning manual, which I paid a considerable price
in terms of time for not reading more thoroughly the first time around...
Definitely. If someone takes responsibility for this it would be great.
Urs
Thanks for reading,
Kevin
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