Dear All,

Three recent threads (are we the future, mutopia, and new users' feelings
about the docs) have prompted me to start a new one rather than write
separate replies to each. Apologies in advance for the length, but I would
be very grateful for some replies.

I am very happy to say that a module I offered at the university where I
teach, on preparing scores with lilypond, has been taken up by the students
(whether the course runs or not is their choice so I consider it a
democratic victory!), and will run for twelve weeks this forthcoming
October-December. I will have about ten sophister B.A. students (music
students at the end of their degrees).

The scope of the course will be to teach some of the finer points of
engraving (Gould is the module reference text) and then get them to produce
their own editions of out-of-copyright scores which we will then try to
upload to mutopia (and perhaps imslp, but I haven't looked into that).

So a few things:

1. I'm viewing this as an opportunity to `turn' a few of our students (who
mostly seem to use pirated copies of Sibelius). I haven't researched the
module yet but I hope that I will have some exemplary scores to show off
LilyPond when the time comes around. The only commercially available one
that I am aware of is Urs and Janek's Fried songbook. (By the way, I read
in another thread that they sold framed A3 pages from it - are they still
doing that? I would love one) If anyone can point me in the direction of
more LilyPond-engraved material that would be great.

2. There seems to be a consensus among a small group here that LilyPond's
default output isn't really publishing standard. I've never engraved a full
score with it (I do examples and diagrams for my own work or the work of
other academics), so I've never really bumped up against this issue. Can
anyone list the things that they routinely improve? I know Kieran and some
others proposed creating some stylesheets to help in this area (and
somewhere I have a very nice engraving of the first page of Beethoven's Op.
10 sonatas) - was there any progress with that?

3. Since I will, in effect, be creating a tutorial for new LilyPond users,
perhaps I could encourage some collaboration here, and make the results
freely available. MuseScore has an excellent series of tutorial videos, for
example. I'm not necessarily saying that format would be best for LilyPond,
but I do think there is room in the ecosystem for a tutorial in addition to
the (excellent) learning manual, which I paid a considerable price in terms
of time for not reading more thoroughly the first time around...

Thanks for reading,
Kevin
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