Hi David,

> No, the problem is that this solution to the problems of bad actors
> addresses a problem that we do not have to a relevant degree.  At least
> I hope we can agree that my intent is not doling out damage to the
> project.

Your original quote

>>> The problem with an approach focused on punishment and expulsion is that
>>> it helps isolating and eventually ostracizing bad actors, limiting the
>>> total damage they may cause.

doesn’t mention intent, and my response was based on that.

> So a solution focused on punishment does not work.
> Punishment makes sense for deliberately committed acts.

Having unintentionally upset my wife on many occasions, and having her punish 
me as a result, I disagree strongly with both of those claims.  =)

> to apply to the elephant in our interaction room effectively,
> the "enforcement" mechanism would need to be quite different.

I’d rather hope (and firmly believe) that the combination of a CoC (or similar) 
and several other related initiatives would make "enforcement" rare to the 
point of vanishing.

Anyway, I’m off to teach for 5 hours and then music-direct for another 5, so 
I’ll return to this thread tomorrow.

Best,
Kieren.
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Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
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