Kieren MacMillan <kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> writes: > Hi David, > >> The problem with an approach focused on punishment and expulsion is that >> it helps isolating and eventually ostracizing bad actors, limiting the >> total damage they may cause. > > "Limiting the total damage they may cause" is a "problem"? You > definitely have me confused on that one. ;)
No, the problem is that this solution to the problems of bad actors addresses a problem that we do not have to a relevant degree. At least I hope we can agree that my intent is not doling out damage to the project. So a solution focused on punishment does not work. Punishment makes sense for deliberately committed acts. A committee to complain to also does not help against the problem of rapid devolvement that Janek mentioned since it is just too late. We'd need a web page for a large enough set of developers/users to warrant speedy response where they can click a "Cool down, David" button that sents an automatic mail to me and blocks submissions from me to the respective list and/or topic until I have manually acknowledged having gotten the mail and/or at least an hour(?) has passed. In other word: to apply to the elephant in our interaction room effectively, the "enforcement" mechanism would need to be quite different. > If I might turn your comment to the contrapositive: The benefit with > an approach that includes the possibility for punishment and > ultimately expulsion is that it potentially provides corrective > feedback for bad actors and limits the total damage they may cause. > >> I have no good idea. > > One of the [so-far-unstated] goals of my Giant Hypergranular List of > Jobs is to address the same problem as the CoC from a different > angle. We’ll have to wait and see if it works out as I feel it could. > > Cheers, > Kieren. > ________________________________ > > Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his) > ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info > ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info > > -- David Kastrup