Well we've certainly successfully convinced business to adopt open source. To the point that they make open source for everyday computer users seem insignificant by comparison.

Christine Hall
Publisher & Editor
FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
http://fossforce.com

On 7/3/19 8:55 PM, John Cowan wrote:
There was a time when the OSI believed that the more licenses the merrier, as long as they all complied with the OSD.  At that time we were trying to encourage companies to release their code as FLOSS, no matter what annoying conditions they put on it.  Only later did the costs to both developers and end users of having zillions of slightly different and incompatible licensing regimes sink in.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:46 PM Christine Hall <christ...@fossforce.com <mailto:christ...@fossforce.com>> wrote:

    It's my understanding that OSI has always campaigned against license
    proliferation.

    Christine Hall
    Publisher & Editor
    FOSS Force: Keeping tech free
    http://fossforce.com

    On 7/3/19 5:29 PM, James wrote:
     > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:17 PM Bruce Perens <br...@perens.com
    <mailto:br...@perens.com>> wrote:
     >>
     >> James, I understand the problem of the companies pushing for
    that, but a license that everyone can use except Amazon, or SaaS
    companies, or SaaS companies over a certain size, isn't copyleft and
    isn't "strong" copyleft. It's just restrictive. Heather and Kyle
    came up with "Polyform", which IMO sounds too much like "colorforms"
    but it's fine as long as you don't call it "Open Source" or "Free
    Software".
     >
     > Perhaps I didn't phrase clearly, but I wasn't disagreeing with you
     > about not calling it "Open Source" or "Free Software". I agree it
     > shouldn't be called that.
     >
     > Clarified for you, my comments meant to state:
     > 1) OSI should campaign against proliferation as part of it's mission.
     > 2) Companies are now trying out restrictive, non-open source
    licenses.
     > I think it's a mistake, and what they really want is normal copyleft.
     >
     > Thanks,
     > James
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