Dear Ken, I need the new distro from you suggestion ONLY, JUST for the
building of LFS, no for other works/jobs! No problem, if it not have
wifi-possibility or others. I saved the full LFS and BLFS books to my
new-used partition, I will work from its. And I was downloaded all needed
packages, of course. I will install the new host distro, and build LFS. If
I would like work/play any other, then reboot to my Sabayon. Therefore, I
no need full-featured desktop environment. Just a lightweight WM with a
browser to read the LFS book, mc (not musthaved, but I like it) and nothing
else, just I should can build my LFS. I need the host distro just
temporarily, ad interim. Which distro you do use nowadays for build you LFS
system?

Or, it is would be much easyer to my, that if you have a full temporary
system as written in the LFS book, - finished to the 5.35 chapter - then
you pack it to a tar.bz2 file, and send me its download link. I download
it, unpack it to my partition, change ownership, and begin at this chapter
I continue the building of my own LFS system, with chroot and others. This
is a little bit would be alike to the Gentoo, from stage3, I think.

Zoli


2013/10/23 Ken Moffat <zarniwh...@ntlworld.com>

> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 07:14:15PM -0400, Viola Zoltán wrote:
> > Dear Ken, I am sure that this is no memory problem. I have absolutely
> full
> > totally new memory chipset in my laptop, and all programs work very good,
> > both in my Sabayon (because I use not Gentoo, but Sabayon) and my old
> > Ubuntu 11.10 distro in an other partition.
> >
> > Okay, I try the LFS with any other host distro. Make a suggestion to me,
> > please, which distro would be good for this procedure? No LiveCD please,
> I
> > have an empty almost 100 GB partitio for the host system. Please propose
> a
> > distro which has MC... I CAN use the commandline without MC, good, but
> WITH
> > mc it is much easyer and faster. I am not profi in the Linux, but no
> > beginner. Maybe "power user". I can write not too difficult bash scripts,
> > can programming in C/C++ (and a little bit in assembly...), my preferred
> > window manager is the DWM, but I am newbie in the LFS, because I not
> > understand good how the "configure", the "make", "autoconf", "automake"
> >  and the linker work, not know they's syntax, etc. I am in the Linux
> > autodidact, self-educated, I was never learned it in any school or
> training
> > course. Actually/as a matter of fact, I was begin the LFS even just
> exactly
> > because I would like to know FULLY, how a Linux system work, and because
> I
> > very not like the bloatware distros (named *buntu, etc) with lot of (for
> > me) superfluous programs. I like, agree, approve the
> > suckless.orgphilosophy. I like the commandline and the
> > commandline-based programs (and
> > ncurses). But sorry, I not have a good "mentor"... Thus, what host distro
> > do you suggest for me, which work good (tested) sure to this LFS?
> >
> > Zoli
> >
>
>  I've no idea which distro would suit you.  But whatever you use,
> 100GB is excessively large for a system.  Many people will put the
> user's files in /home on a separate partition.  Some people will
> put other data files (e.g. audio-video) on a separate partition.
> You can always reinstall a distro if it gets trashed, but you are
> the only one who can preserve and back-up your own data.
>
>  Debian and debian-derived distros (ubuntu, mint) may be missing a
> few things (e.g. they might have mawk instead of gawk, and /bin/sh
> might be symlinked to dash - both these things can be fixed).
> Distros like Arch and fedora might be too bleeding edge (i.e. newer
> than what we have tested), but I will be surprised if they cause
> many problems (I'm assuming that systemd doesn't cause a problem in
> building LFS - I've never used it, and have no plans to).
>
>  MC is not something I like, so I've no idea which distros use it.
>
>  The one benefit to a distro is that it should set up your hardware
> properly.  Nowadays many things just work, but older or very new
> hardware can have problems.  Wifi can be a problem, and occasionally
> graphics are also a problem.  Suspend/hibernate also.  If you can
> find a distro which suits you, you can use it to examine desktops
> and different desktop applications.  I assume that debian has the
> widest range of these.
>
>  Once you have a usable (for you) desktop, you will (I hope) find
> that using a graphical browser such as firefox is the easiest way to
> search for solutions to problems, and you will also be able to try
> putting multiple terms on the same desktop (if your screen is big
> enough) - I guess that kde, gnome, and unity (ubuntu) are probably
> not very good for multiple terms on the same desktop.  Seriously,
> a desktop configured the way you like it, with multiple terms, is
> the most productive way to write scripts or code IMHO.
>
>  I'd better not forget to mention Slackware.
>
>  You might do best to spend a few weeks playing around with
> different distros - for normal use, I guess that 10GB is plenty for
> a system, but you may have trouble getting multiple distros to play
> nicely with each other - particularly when setting up grub, but also
> the user and group IDs.
>
> ĸen
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