On May 4, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

> Scott Robertson wrote:
> 
>>> What part of:
>> ...
>>> do you not understand?
>> 
>> Wow, again with the hostility.  
> 
> The reason it sounds hostile is because we spend a lot of time trying to 
> explain 
> and users regularly skip the explanations.  Whether you skipped reading them 
> or 
> not, your questions indicate that you did not understand them.
> 
> If you follow the instructions literally, they work.  Making inferences and 
> adding things not in the book is where users run into problems.

Easy.  :)

* * *

Scott, please try to understand that LFS is put together by a volunteer corp of 
programmers and admins, not professional writers.  So, there will be parts of 
the book that are INCREDIBLY important to read, and parts of the book that are 
more "optional" in nature.  So, try to understand that the point of feedback 
that sounds like: "What part of XYZ don't you understand?" is a reminder 
(though not a particularly nice one) that the problem is likely some assumption 
you are making, and that much closer attention needs to be paid 
somewhere--though, in general, that where is not well-marked.

That having been said, LFS is a deeply technical project.  It's a bit like 
instructions to build your own particle accelerator, not an Ikea cabinet.  Yes, 
you'll need to read--then reread--every word, and assume that everything is 
important.

* * *

LFS devs, writers, and editors, please try to understand that the LFS can read 
like a list of GPS coordinates given at 1mm spacings without altitude and 
annotations.  If I follow it *exactly*, and assume no errors in the readings or 
the map, and I make the same set of assumptions as you, then I'll get there.  
But, if I miss by just a tiny bit, instead of walking along a ridge, I fall off 
the cliff.  Having been around a bit to see users struggle and struggle and 
struggle with the "implied" directions in Chapter 5 about unpacking stuff, 
(esp. when the rest of time you're repeating to people to follow the book 
VERBATIM), it seems that there could be more warning there.

Having said that, I recognize that the editors are professional techies--not 
professional writers.  At least, I hope not.  :)  If 1 out of every 10 
map-users falls off the cliff, is it worth thinking about how to annotate the 
map instead of insisting that people just stop falling over the cliff?  Most of 
the people who fall over don't seem to be saying the book is wrong (some do, 
but just have Ken gently accost at those people with obscure classical 
references...by the time he's done, they'll just think they've been given a 
Swedish massage in a part of their brain they never knew they had).

Does anyone know a technical writer that might be able to offer some time to 
address that one glaring issue?

The message that gets repeated over and over is that LFS is not a distro, but a 
book.  Well, then it's in an interesting category of being both a tech project 
but also a book.  When a written metaphor is weak, we don't usually tell 
readers to change their mental models (unless you're Joyce); we just get a red 
pen and write "constipated thinking" in the margins.  Surely there's some room 
to say that the book needs better writing, even if the instructions are 
technically correct.

        Q


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