On 07/20/2010 06:35 PM, Neal Murphy wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 July 2010 18:00:12 Dan McGhee wrote:
>
>> If you'd allow me to rant just for a second--or longer--the
>> documentation for grub over the years has left a little to be desired
>>
> You are much too kind, sir, exhibiting a forebearance that continues to escape
> me.
>
Oh, Neal. Flattery will get you everywhere. ( BTW I really do enjoy your
sense of humor.) Maybe forbearance = patience. And patience I want
*now.* You should see the cat's bruised ribs. The dog now cowers when I
walk around the house.
In one of your recent responses to a post of mine you hinted at your
longevity in this arena. Mine is not nearly as "long-in-the tooth" as
yours :) but I've been at it awhile. Take into consideration what Bruce
just said about the developers and the documentation. Now let me say
this. Especially when I started with LFS, which was in the 2.4 kernel
days, two things have come home loudly and clearly:
1. Developers are developers and not documentation writers. There will
be holes--sometimes gaping. I think that in the open source community
people want to make a "perfect" product, but they're limited by their
humanity. Minor example. In the main I probably represent myself as
someone quite articulate and well-spoken. But look at the subject line.
When I wrote it, I was thinking more about grub than a subject line and
totally missed it or didn't even proof read it. Additionally, developers
probably have developed calluses when it comes to someone
criticizing--non-pejoratively even--their work. You've seen it recently
on this list. "The book doesn't work. It needs to be changed." Ergo: I
ask questions--hopefully they reasonable. (Nice segue to #2.)
2. In using Linux distros or building {,B}LFS in an infinitely small
number less that 100% of the time, my "speed bumps" have come from me.
Typos. Misunderstanding what was written. Ignorance. The last is
something I've learned that some refuse to admit. It merely means
"uninformed" or "lack of knowledge." There's nothing wrong with that.
It's nagging me that currently grub sees nothing but my new LFS system.
Why is that true? Nobody else is complaining. My Ubuntu sees everything.
Therefore, what have "I" done, or what do "I" not know that's causing this.
Why all this OT digression? I'm sucking up to the experienced LFS guys
because I'm going to post some really dumb questions about networking.
:) That's not *all* true. The point for people who may read this is that
LFS may not work "out of the box," and it's not necessarily the Book's
fault. In fact, this is the first LFS build in 6 or 7 years with which
I've had this much technical problem.
Bottom line: my new LFS works.
Thanks to all who have waded through the mental meanderings of the
Modern Day Aristotle. I promise--maybe--not to do this any more.
Dan
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