Matthew Burgess wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:20:00 +0100, Ken Moffat <zarniwh...@ntlworld.com> 
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 03:22:07AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Matt Burgess wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 15:00 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 103-automake:FAIL: t/primary-prefix-invalid-couples.tap 280 - ...
>> and
>>>>> with the same diagnostic of 'automake -a'
>>>>> 103-automake:# FAIL:  1
>>>>
>>>> I've just hit this one again.  It looks like there's a patch for it at
>>>>
>> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/bug-automake/2013-07/msg00022.html.
>> I'll test that in my next build, if you're happy for it to go into
>> LFS-7.4-rc2 and to remove the comment about 1 test intermittently failing?
>>>>
>>>> Ta,
>>>>
>>>> Matt.
>>>>
>>>   Doesn't apply for me.  Not sure why, and I've got enough problems
>>> already.  Fixing it would be nice (or, heretically, we could tell
>>> people not to bother with non-toolchain tests ;-)
>>>
>>   Now that I've got that test build booted [still building bison by
>> hand :-( ] I've taken another look - whitespace differences (columns
>> offset by two places).  Perhaps happened in pasting from the html
>> page.  Fixed up, rediffed.  Untested (although a user on the list
>> reported it fixed the problem) but attached in case anyone else
>> wants to take a look.
>
> Sorry Ken, I've been stuck at work all day today, but I've already got
> a version tested and passed that I should have informed the list about.
> I know there's a recommendation in the book to not run the tests, but
> it's the only package that contains a test suite that has such a comment
> against it.  Yes, the tests take a long time, but they are not dangerous
> (as far as I know) and therefore if a user has taken the decision to run
> all chapter 6 tests, then these should be run too, IMO.

The recommendation is because it takes too much time (over an hour on my 
system) and the tests are pretty much valueless.  I agree that, other 
than time, they cause no harm. As a developer, I do run them (so users 
don't need to).

> That said, I'll repeat *again* that I don't see the value in having the
> autotools installed in LFS anyway, but I know that's flogging a dead horse.

Well, for one thing, they are needed for Xorg (libxcb, mesalib, and 
x7driver-glamor).  I count 14 apps in BLFS that need autotools.

   -- Bruce
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