On Friday, June 13, 2025 at 4:12:24 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: Imo, Wikipedia article on the Turing Test <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test> refutes the notion that Turing's 1950 paper was anything but first rate.
In fact it doesn't. None of the 24 references to the paper across the article says anything about the paper quality itself, and are more related with interpretations. Given than Wikipedia, as any encyclopedia is a secondary source that appeals to primary sources, and we have access to the primary source[1], we can judge by ourselves about the papers quality Sure. But the commentary from many other thinkers can not be ignored. and see if we agree or not with the podcast criticism about Turing's tendencies to displacing both the question from "can machines think?" to "can machines pass the imitation game?" This "displacement" clarifies the original question. Imo, changing the question this way was a stroke of genius. It seems so obvious in retrospect. and also displacing the objections (from machines can not create anything original to machines can not surprise us), his lack of citations, his disengagement with contemporary thinkers/academicians working on similar topics, his poor referencing to external sources and so on. I'm not interested in nit-picking a paper written 75 years ago from today's perspective. In my two decades as member of the Leo community, I have found here a place of intelligent, inspiring and well argumented conversations, that I have praised several times. That was also what I was looking for here regarding IA. I think that such conversations are important in this times of rage and noise, particularly when we disagree. I could not agree more. Thanks for these kind words. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/f68e9ddd-9bc5-4437-9247-c2f6f90e980en%40googlegroups.com.
