> Well Rich football is about opinions and I know our
> views differ on Kelly. 
> As you say, you are the last one to preach to me
> about having it in for any 
> of the players. I actually made the point I think
> Kelly is a decent bloke 
> whereas your rants have been much more personal and
> offensive about players 
> like Gregan, Butler, Douglas etc.

Agreed - but nowt wrong with getting personal
especially when it's with wasters like Gregan. Should
never have been associated with our great club.  
> 
> I don't know where to start responding really. You
> have made a lot of 
> subjective comments (over 500 games and mostly
> played well) the one fact is 
> he got Player of the Year and got in the
> Championship 11.

Pretty big fact though Phill. A lot of the supporters
clubs gave him our player of the year as well as
papers such as the YEP. Are they all wrong Phill ? I'm
not trying to change your opinion but I think maybe
you've got this one wrong. 

 I know that but it 
> doesnt change my views. He wasnt our player of the
> year last year

BUT Phill he was - thousands of Leeds fans thought he
was including me. 

 but who am 
> I to disagree with Leeds fans who also voted for
> Brian Deane (twice).

Looks like you're clutching at straws now. 
 
If you watched all the teams
> in the division last year 
> you would have picked several right backs that were
> far superior to Kelly. 
> If you didnt see any better than him you either
> werent watching or you have 
> never played the game.

Nah. Kelly was the most consistent right back in the
championship. 
> 
> Of course you have contradicted yourself by saying
> at the outset that I am 
> always slagging Kelly then observing wrongly that I
> kept quiet during his 
> "best perfomances" last year. I have continually
> criticised him, I remember 
> a long rant at his first half-perfomance at
> Leicester away last year which 
> was the worst by any player I have seen for many
> years.

Just about his one bad performance. I think he's
allowed one of them isn't he ? The point I was making
is that you only voiced your opinion on Kelly once or
twice last season cos that was the number of bad games
he had. You never acknowledged all the man of the
match performances he has turned in. Even this year
you have been quiet. Did you go to Brum at home where
he was immense and what about Southend when he went
off - did you notice the difference. By the way if you
go to the LUFC supporters club site you can see who is
leading the player of the year award this season - yep
you guessed it , it's Gary Kelly. 
Even I have admitted that Gregan has had a few good
games for the club. I say it as it is Phill. I think
you're blinkered when it comes to Kelly. Has he
shagged your daughter or someatt ?


For £28k a week, now .....

Blah , Blah , BLah - 28k a week. Irrelevant point. Is
it is wage that blinkers your judgement ?

> He cant head, he > cant tackle, he cant 
> read the game and has very little skill. He has
> relied on his speed to bale 
> him out and as you say he lost that yonks ago. Thats
> when I gave up on him.

He's a much better tackler than Richardson - that's a
fact. He also very rarely gets beaten. 

> 
> The bottom line whether you are prepared to accept
> it or not is if this 
> bloke was any good he would have been snapped up
> elsewhere long ago. We have 
> sold every playing assett we have had but not him.
> For f*ck sake, Leeds 
> allegedly wanted rid so bad they were going to pay
> some hoods to break his 
> legs and claim the insurance!

Oh Phill come on. Does this mean he's shit. This
argument is about whether Kelly can play or not.
You're argument that someone connected to Leeds wanted
to do him in to get the insurance has no relevance at
all and if that's the best you can do in justifying
why you think Kelly is 'crap' I'd keep quiet. 


> 
> Wise obviously feels the same as me because the
> little fella is going to 
> f*ck off Kelly. Who is waiting to sign him, ok not
> Prem teams but can the 
> bestr right back in the Championship get a contract
> with another 
> Chanmpionship team? No he is going to play in the
> paddy league for Drogheda 
> (sic?). I rest my case.

Again Wise's decision is purely financial and that I
can understand. If this is your argument then I agree
with it. We can't afford to be playing players in this
division who are earning 28k a week BUT in Kelly's
case , nobody in the championship can afford his
wasges so I'm happy to see him stay and keep us up.

By the way, you might have to eat your words here
because the news is that Kelly is ready to return to
Wise's plans. What would you think to that then Phill
? 
 
> 
> Phill
> :-)
> Marching on Together (without Kelly)
> 
>
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