I think the key component that analysis misses Dave (aside from the longer term benefits of getting kids coming to come and in the habit of going to see and support Leeds, even in the dark times) is whether there is a correlation between getting more people in, generating more atmosphere and getting better results.
Thus another 5 or 10k on the attendance could be argued to get you 10 more points over the season, which can be the difference between relegation and staying up, or mid table and a play off push. The trouble with that of course is it is an entirely unquantifiable and intangible thing - how can you demonstrate the extra bodies would generate the atmosphere and would get you the points? Ken would rather go with the proven cash in pocket from high prices rather than conducting experiments with his cash flow. DW -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAVID NATTAN Sent: 18 December 2006 12:41 To: list leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Ticket prices If KB has looked at Hull (or Leicester who did similar I believe) the only figure that will interest him is "How much money did they make" It is all very well putting a couple of thousand on the gate at reduced prices but for us to make the same amount of cash for you and your family at £5 each, on the figures you have given, we would need to attract an EXTRA 13+ fans in -ie 17/18 instead of 4 !! And the Carling Cup seemed to show that certainly at £10 per adult the extra fans will still not turn up. Yes, he will need to see if the extra fans brought in extra revenue via merchandise - pies, programmes etc offset against extra police and stewarding costs etc ! Like everyone else I would love to see ER full again (especailly starting Saturday with a massive game for us !) and I do feel sorry for those who genuinely cannot afford to go, but at the end of the day we are a business and it is all about "maximising our revenue stream" or some such, and the cold hard fact is that 10,000 paying £25 brings in a lot more cash than 30,000 at £5 per head !!!! So fans can moan and whinge all they want on here or waccoe ( at least one thread a day on this subject) but Bates will only reduce prices if he is convinced that it will bring more money in Dave David Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you think Ken "I've got a secret mission to destroy Leeds United" Bates will have looked at the full crowd at the KC Stadium in Hull on Saturday and thought 'I'd love to see Elland Road full of Leeds fans and the side winning 4-1, I'll give that fiver-a-ticket scheme go"? This would enable the likes of me to pay 20 quid instead of 86 quid for two kids and two adults to see us play. DRB _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist 'I am in shock,' said Ferguson. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist 'I am in shock,' said Ferguson. ******* This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England & Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Law Society of England & Wales. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist 'I am in shock,' said Ferguson.

