> Because Bates said as much, in the summer I believe. > Also I do not believe > that Blackwell would have got away with saying they > had a 3 year plan for > promotion (this being Bates' second year remember) > twice over the course of > a week or so if it wasn't true. First Blackwell > wasn't given for lying in > these matters (finance and agreements with Bates) > and second Bates would > have bollocked him after the first time. > > Did noone else pick up on these comments by > Blackwell. He was basically > trying to 'manage expectations' by saying that > promotion wasn't expected > this season either. It certainly raised my eyebrows > as I always assumed > this season was the one - maybe they both > pragmatically re-assessed the > situation when they saw who got relegated and > realised they didn't have the > big bucks available to seriously compete with those > 3?
Mark, you're rewriting history. You say that Bates 'said as much in the Summer I believe' Mark he didn't say it. It was just Blackie trying to justify another season. Bates never said anything other than there's no excuses anymore - no whinging about the past. He never said what there were no excuses for but he never said that promotion wasn't an expectation. Stop making things up. > > Having said all that Bates didn't want Blackwell > harping on about 2 seasons > ago. He didn't want the financial/playing situation > 2 years ago used as an > excuse this season because this season Blackwell had > a good squad and a > squad he wanted. > > All sounds pretty logical and reasonable to me. > > For the record, the comments Blackwell made in the > last week of his > management were all about the financial situation > NOW, and that he was > frustrated at not being able to buy who he wanted. > That was new and it's > THAT what must have pissed Bates off. Up to that > point Blackwell was > critical of the whole Leeds situation and blamed the > previous regime, these > comments now criticised Bates for not putting up > more cash. Simple. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nigel Holcroft > Sent: 05 October 2006 19:24 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LU] Did Bates say it or not ? > > You really believe that? How so? > > Just what did he not want excuses for then? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mark Humphries > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:54 AM > To: 'Nigel Holcroft'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LU] Did Bates say it or not ? > > All very true, but still consistent with him not > expecting or planning for > promotion this season > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nigel Holcroft > Sent: 05 October 2006 16:54 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LU] Did Bates say it or not ? > > > As I remember it...The one thing Bates said, > emphatically about promotion > and the manager's performance; for this season was > that, the time for > excuses was past and that he did not want to hear > any more talk about having > only 2 players and how we nearly went out of > business etc... > > As soon as we started losing again this season, what > did Blackwell trot > out?... Yup the same old excuses...with a few new > ones added... No surprise > to find the chairman less than thrilled then, eh? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and > the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > oh alright then :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and > the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > oh alright then :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and > the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > oh alright then :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and > the list administrators accept no liability for the > personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > oh alright then :-) > ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist oh alright then :-)

